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    Harry Potter

    Theres a time for sarcasm, this is not one of those please.

    this is david's girlfriend olivia, (er0k) i guess you all know him as, please read this, think of your religious opinion of harry potter, meaning is it against christianity in your opinion (or some other religion) and then read this article. i just finished it

    To the Anti-Harry Potter Christians
    (this is an informal, freely distributable article and an opinion by an author who wishes to remain nameless so as to not have hate coming his/her way)

    The purpose of this article is to illustrate the fact of fantasy being the genre of the Harry Potter books. It is not to persuade you or others to read the books, which would be advertising. Heck I don't care if anyone reads them, simply just do not wish for anyone to burn, ban, or beat them out of their child's grasp to broaden their imagination.

    Harry Potter is a boy born with magical powers and a scar left by Lord Voldermort (Lord not meaning god for you dumb americans, but simply a title to infer power, for instance: the lord of a manor (someone who owns a manor and various estates/land)) when voldemort tried to kill him at birth. The scar acts as a connection between harry and voldemort, but I do not wish to spoil the books. Harry grows up being bullied by his muggle (non-magical) family. they hate him, and hate magic. Finally Harry is sent a letter by a wizarding school and he goes off to it to learn magic, its history, and life in the realm of magic-folk.

    Christians and other various religions have banned and even burned harry potter books because of their belief that it is basically blasphemous to their god, their bible.. etc. Claiming things like "The bible says no to sorcery.." blah blah. Well the truth here is, the bible means do not believe that you are magical, can perform magic, attempt magic, or believe in its possibility without a miracle of some sort from god him/her/itself.

    The Harry Potter series is a collection of fantasy novels. The keyword being fantasy. You will be hard-pressed to find many novels that fit into this category that do not contain magic or mention thereof.

    If you disallow your child, or persuade others to hate the harry potter series or basically just "not read them" here are some questions that i have for you:

    1. Have you ever read the Lord of the Rings series, or cared about its existence, banned it from your child, seen the movie, etc.?

    2. Is it your job to control your child's imagination, more than it is to encourage it?

    3. Have you ever read a book concering fantasy or magic, and did it change your opinion on your god, bible, etc?

    4. Would Jesus not encourage J.K. Rowling's peaceful brilliance applied through novel form?

    5. Has J.K. Rowling ever given mention to a form or actually an occult in the novels, copied their traditions, etc?
    A preacher who once banned the books from their family and preached to his church not to read them, read the first book, and realized since all of the magic inside the novel is made up, fiction, and not pertaining to real life or the disbelief of god, and didn't give him any reason to pursue his own magical career, that the books were fine, loveable fantasy that broaden your imagination and encourage reading.

    6. Have you ever stopped your child watching television cartoons because they have magic in them? How about lets say.. a cartoon with non-human characters that have the ability to speak and converse with each other, and function in a society, such as the movie "Coneheads" or the popular tv show of the early to mid 1990's "Dinosaurs"

    7. Do you have a personal problem with your child or friend becoming an avid reader?

    8. Do you know a librarian that goes to church reguarly, and is a good person? If so, they are the devil in your eyes and should be burnt along with the evil harry potter books. (end sarcasm)

    Basically, judgement should only be passed and kept private to one's self and one's own very personal opinion or belief. If your child or friend is a true christian, then these books will simply be an atrocity, a random collection of text, a wonderful fantasy and a gateway into the addition of your house of an imagination, or simply good fun.

    Hatred towards either side, the non-harry potter believers, or the zealous Harry Potter supporters is not what Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, etc would want for their people. Love the author's creativity, Love the happiness it has brought to millions lucky enough to be able to read the books around the world, and most of all, love your child/friend/spouse/relatives own personal, private opinion.

    Now after having read that, vote in the poll.. hopefully it changed some of you all's opinion on harry potter books. i would appreciate no outrageous "flames" i suppose i am being told they are called, but some helpful feedback, opinions etc on harry potter and the article. Thank-you all !

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    I personally think that the Harry Potter book series is the best series out there:P haha out of all the book i've read i found HP pretty intersting and exciting. But school districts near my area have banned them from school because they said that it encourage witchcraft,etc....I'm not sure if they still are banned lol cause I moved, but there were still some schools (mine) that actually encouraged us to read it haha...so I did and i loved it!!

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    Hey er0k,

    Don't fall out of your chair here, but I agree with you completely on this issue. The only observation that I would add; is that while the parent should be cognizant of not stifiling imagination, the parent does however need to be aware of obsession and should be prepared to address the issue in order to prevent fanaticism.
    The mentally handicaped are persecuted in this great country, and I say rightfully so! These people are NUTS!!!!

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    Originally posted here by s3nate
    ... But school districts near my area have banned them from school because they said that it encourage witchcraft,etc...
    oh Lord. Those ppl should be burned to the ashes. Some ppl cant see the diference between a fantasy book and a witchcraft book.

    BTW, witchcraft? WTF? were is that? Salem? I cant believe in so developed country there is still peolpe that think like that. It is the same kind of people that think that jewish are bad or left hand ppl are evill...

    Oh. please ban all fantasy books. and ban horror books too. and burn Stephen King.

    I cant believe that ppl EVEN discuss that thing on a school council...
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    I really don't understand how this can possibly be an issue, and I'm an avid christian. I totally agree, Harry Potter is entirely fictitious fantasy and harmless. The Bible refers to real instances of witchcraft (i.e., Pharoah's magicians in Exodus, etc.), hardly the "magic" of children's novels. Some "christians" will judge anything though if it's convenient -- I just hate it when they become the stereotype for the rest of us. These same people watch characters get killed in movie after movie everday, though Thou shalt not kill. They seem to understand the divide between fact and fiction there. Go fig.

    Yeah, totally agree. To condemn this is unchrisitan, in fact.

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    People just need to relax lol...believe it or not some people have nothing better to do with their life but stir up some ****. Anyways, it will be gone in the next 10 years and the next generation will start to appreciate some other fictional fantasy ****. Magic the Gathering is gaining in popularity again, and they also have books you can read. To make it even worse, you also have massive trading card game that follows the book so you think Harry Potter will be a problem? Kids will outgrow it, and as usuall there will always be some who can't quite outgrow it sometimes.

    Sooner or later you're going to see Spiderman get sued because some dimwitted kid decided to get himself bit by a spider and probably barely lived. Spiderman 3 might probably come out next year and each episode seems to take its predecesor to the next level.

    I'd like to see some of my favorite games become movies...a mini-series of "StarSiege" would be great!

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    Ahhh the Harry Potter books. Many an hour have been spent reading them in marathon sessions after the books were released. Personally my family was brainwashed by their church for a long time about the Harry Potter books. They thought the books were evil and promoted witchcraft. I asked my mom to read them and I think that she actually has a better opinion of them now.

    Personally, I think that it is great to have kids reading. Getting them away from the brain draining TV for a couple of hours to read a book they enjoy (and dont have to read for school) is a good thing.
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    Sarcasm - good thing my mom and dad were a little "progressive" I was obsessed with Godzilla, it has the word GOD in it! Must be a false god, heritic! OOps I don't think the radicals have thought of that yet. I love godzilla and the gang. I was obsessed with other fantastic movies and books as well. It's the stuff of imagination and children have the gift of untethered brains. The Harry stories are the best original idea of this generation and I would wager, those desiring their burning, I mean banning, haven't a single clue of their content.
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    Originally posted here by cacosapo
    oh Lord. Those ppl should be burned to the ashes. Some ppl cant see the diference between a fantasy book and a witchcraft book.

    BTW, witchcraft? WTF? were is that? Salem? I cant believe in so developed country there is still peolpe that think like that. It is the same kind of people that think that jewish are bad or left hand ppl are evill...

    Oh. please ban all fantasy books. and ban horror books too. and burn Stephen King.

    I cant believe that ppl EVEN discuss that thing on a school council...
    I Agree With cacosapo 100%

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    anyone who burns a book that is clearly FANTASY is most likely some type of bible-beating fanatic. I say this both as a christian and a pastor's kid. My dad (the pastor if you forgot ) not only owns the books but also has the audio books (not sure if he got those legally) and he loves them... we are part of more of the more "conservative" branches of christianity, and it just doesn't make sense why people would want to make their lives more misrable by not allowing themselves to have fun/relax by reading some fiction that can possibly make you think.

    (not only this, but The Specialist would probably poop on them since they are so stupid)
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