September 25th, 2004, 04:41 AM
For all you problem solvers...
Last edited by ei8htyfi5e; April 16th, 2009 at 11:59 PM.
September 25th, 2004, 06:02 AM
The major flaw in your logic is that it isn't your network. It is someone else's network. If they say that Macs can't play, it isn't up to you to decide they are wrong. You are probably on a network where traffic is tightly managed for legal or limited resource reasons. Certain kinds of activity can block or kill legitimate transactions on networks with limited bandwidth.
An unmanaged (by IT) proxy on the network may also be against the AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). If you install a proxy and attempt to hide your activity behind it, the IT folks will probably do more than just send an email when they find out. I presume you are on a campus (educational or corporate). To get network access, you likely signed and agreed to an AUP. I suggest that you read it, then consider where you stand ethically.
If you are planning a long term relationship in this network, don't get on the wrong side of the IT folks.
September 25th, 2004, 06:10 AM
P.S. It would suck to get kicked out of the naval academy you probably worked your little butt off to get into just because you wanted to use a mac. I guess that would probably be worse case scenario though.
When death sleeps it dreams of you...
September 25th, 2004, 06:47 AM
Yeah, well I got my commission when there was still an honor code. Even now, pull that kind of stuff in the military academy? Bye, bye career.
It ain't worth it middie.
September 25th, 2004, 07:07 AM
rapier you actually kind of wrong, I completely took over my commands IT department. My IT department was a little pissed, but the CO found if funny, when I printed to his computer, 100 ways to make your CO laugh. I had the one underlined that said take over your network, and print to your CO's printer You Suck.
I probably would of gotten in trouble if my CO, wasn't as cool. I will say this though, it all depends on your CO, and you.
I did end up with the job of helping the IT department Secure their network though.
It was cool though, I got an NAM for it.
September 25th, 2004, 08:08 AM
Nonsense! all an Apple is is an overpriced PC You know that it is 100% compatible with your network so you must accept that that compatibility works both ways. I actually doubt if your IT people detected an Apple..................they saw an unauthorised piece of equipment. I am sure that if you read the small print you will find that all unapproved equipment is banned. This is a very common and sensible network policy. Why.............................?
I'm on a network that doesn't allow Apple computers to connect through the internet because the IT people can't regulate the software on the computer.
1. Unauthorised equipment can contain all sorts of viruses, trojans, spyware etc.
2. It may contain illegal, unlicenced software. On their network, on their premises they would be liable.
Obviously this applies to ANY laptop or private equipment (which would include routers and proxy servers).
In answer to your "hypothetical" question: "yes" it would be possible but not recommended. You are on your "first strike", they know that you have the damn thing................they are watching you and waiting.....................
If I were you I would learn how to use a PC............
Think about it, if you want to use your Apple, get your own private connection
If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
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September 25th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Last edited by ei8htyfi5e; April 16th, 2009 at 11:59 PM.
September 25th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Which item did they complain about, the Mac or the Wireless router? It’s going to be hard to totally hide the wireless router because they could always find it using Kismet if the do a search for unauthorized WAPs, or they could Nmap the network and look for non Windows boxes which should find it. You could set up you Windows box to do ICS if you get two network cards for it, hook what card up to a switch in your room and do it that way. Now if they are running a sniffer on the network they may still find your Macintosh because when you web browse your browser reports your OS information in the HTTP_USER_AGENT variable to the web server, but you can change the information it gives in Mozilla by typing “about:config” in the URL bar and then changing the appropriate fields.
/Edit: See here to change your HTTP_USER_AGENT in Mozilla http://www.network54.com/Forum/324089
September 25th, 2004, 01:36 PM
It matters not if your intentions are malicious or benign. The fact of the matter is that your IT department doesn't want you having your mac on their net. Don't do it. They'll nail you to the wall if you do. You will get caught, even by proxy.
Even a broken watch is correct twice a day.
Which coder said that nobody could outcode Microsoft in their own OS? Write a bit and make a fortune!
September 26th, 2004, 01:32 AM
Hey, Whiz! Good to see you are still around. Don't give ei8htyfi5e any ideas. I suspect that the academy IT dudes have NO sense of humor. 'Sides, he wants to be a SEAL. He'll need the references of some of my friends.
BTW, one of my former students just returned from Iraq. He's a Marine who has been stationed at a command center in Fallujah (SP?). I'm just glad he's home and whole. My baby sister came back last month. She is in rehab for combat fatigue. She was on the team providing escort duty to the US Ambassador.