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    What's up with this? And why isn't the ACLU coming forward to protect the "rights" of the police officers to enforce the law? GRRRR!

    http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Storie...428344,00.html
    The Oakland Tribune reports that police in that California city have been forced to stop putting up DUI checkpoints because Latinos complained they were snagging too many undocumented guests.

    The checkpoints, in which officers demand drivers licenses and proof of insurance, have snagged dozens of illegal immigrants who are “not licensed to drive yet otherwise obey the law,” the paper says.

    The department has agreed to a moratorium on the checkpoints until guidelines can be drawn up that would presumably only allow police to enforce drunk driving laws and not any others.
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    Why are we protecting illegal imigrants in a consistent fashion? The real manipulators and power plays are in dealing with this issue. I for one don't like the checkpoints, reminds me of the Soviet Socialist Republic. But the reason they are stoppping them IS NOT American rights, it for the rights of citizens here ILLEGALLY. And Arnald who touts himself as a conservative is right there with em. Making deals to protect those who have no drivers license, or passport or visa.
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    WTF? If it was some chinese doing that they would be in prison or any other race for that matter! The only reason I think Arnold does such things like this is because of the "large" hispanic community. If he didn't he would probably be capped and oh no nobody wants to upset those people. And doesn't this open the door to more terrorist threats? ah wtf!?! just thoughts

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    Road > First, Arnold was against it, then he was working on getting it amended, and now he seems to have finally vetoed it (http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/1043261.html).
    He's still in favor, apparently... just didn't think the security-aspect of it was covered sufficiently.

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    SACRAMENTO -- Citing security concerns, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Wednesday carried out his long-standing threat to veto legislation that would have allowed illegal immigrants to obtain drivers' licenses.
    ahh thats better, I started to freak out lol.

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    I'm telling ya, these guys are liberals in many many ways. Don't know why the left is so bent on eliminating them. All soft on borders with Mexico and language issues and giving amnesty to illegal aliens. I am forming a new party, the Common Sense for America party or the American People Front not to be confused with the Peoples Front of America.

    Come to this country, buy a house have kids, salute the flag. Do it legally and I am your brother. If mexico is that bad, use your energy to enact revolution and resist corruption.

    //EDIT The fight is not over the left needs the constituents .... Arnald was flip floping on this the whole time, if given the right "incintive" I think he may have swung the other way, who knows but he's weak in an area I consider important.

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    Originally posted here by RoadClosed
    Why are we protecting illegal imigrants in a consistent fashion? The real manipulators and power plays are in dealing with this issue. I for one don't like the checkpoints, reminds me of the Soviet Socialist Republic. But the reason they are stoppping them IS NOT American rights, it for the rights of citizens here ILLEGALLY. And Arnald who touts himself as a conservative is right there with em. Making deals to protect those who have no drivers license, or passport or visa.
    You must remember Road, that a good portion of the work on farms throughout California relies on cheap labor from Mexico. They keep prices cheap because they are paid minimum wage. To really crack down on this will "supposivly" hurt farmers and others (as well as drive up prices for American labor) who rely on cheap and illegal labor from Mexico. There has got to be a lot of behind the scenes lobbying for protection of these people.
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    Road conservatives out west for all of there talk love illigals. The econamy of many western states could not function without the near slave labor that the illigals provide, so while they will talk tough abotu stoping illigal imagration its in there best interests to keep it running.
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    Well those guys can go F themselves. Btw I live in Colorado. While not as bad as California there are issues here, I can go miles without even seeing an English sign in some areas. I know it's not an easy issue but hey, the guy hanging out in a doorway drinking a forty while I was at lunch can go take up the slack. Me not buying any produce from Cali would help as well. In California the hispanic voters are the MAJORITY and only a few of them get the big picture. A president that "really" stands on border issues could make a difference - that is until the ACLU stops them. But we have a liberal president and an even more liberal challenger.
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    From the stranger than fiction end, mho. Illegal immigrants. Let 'em in, let 'em work, let 'em go back home wealthy - here's why:

    1. Illegal immigrants usually work in positions the average American doesn't want. If I ever hear of a Doctor, Attorney, or *gasp* Congressman being an illegal immigrant, I might fuss about it. In the meantime, they're driving up our labor force skills and requiring us to be more knowledgeable about our work. Good competition never hurt.

    2. Illegal immigrants *still* have social security and federal taxes withdrawn from their wages - this means they're contributing to a social program from which they can *never* draw anything back. This means more sugar in the bowl for the rest of us. Hand 'em faked papers with false work visas. Let them donate coin for my retirement and yours.

    3. The people who're actually fussing about these immigrants coming forth and taking these 'bottom end' jobs are those who are either a - not motivated to improve themselves, or b - too stupid to improve themselves, or c - idiotic rednecks. Since I tend to be a very strong advocate of 'stupidity should be painful' and laziness is just stupid.....

    4. The hispanic population in the United States is very close to becoming the largest minority. This is already true in Texas where I live, and it's true elsewhere. The african americans around here raise hell about it because they're no longer getting laws passed just for their benefit, and their representation within our government is rapidly dwindling while the hispanic side increases rapidly. Perhaps this will put an end to affirmative action and other racial oriented laws, and put us all once again on an equal footing. If it takes allowing an illegal immigrant couple to enter the US and have children who are then *legal citizens* here, so be it. Now this might be my own slightly racist upbringing coming forth here, but I've honestly never seen a stupid redneck burn a cross in a hispanic's yard. Perhaps even they can get along with our hispanic populace?

    5. They have the best food besides Cajun that I've ever eaten. When combined with our own culture cuisine, the outcome (tex-mex) just rocks. Yes, this is a stupid reason, but this is my post, and my opinion. Feel free to disagree if this is the only thing you can disagree with.

    6. One of the funniest things I see these days involving Hispanics is when my good friend who happens to be a full blood Cherokee, is approached and spoken to in Spanish. He speaks only american, and becomes quite offended. The hilarity in this is that he himself cannot see the physical similarities between the two races while everyone else seems to have that ability. Ok, how does this apply to illegal immigrants? Well, I'm not sure here but let's see - they look like some of us, they work as hard as or harder than some of us, they're just trying to make a living like we are, raising families and feeding them, and improving their lives, and they're contributing to our society with culture, cuisine, and money. We waste how many millions trying to stop them at the borders? Why not let them in for free into our 'great melting pot' ?
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