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    Angry Microsoft warns Asian governments of Linux suits

    I guess MS is taking over SCO's role now. I really wish however that they identified which "research group" this was. I think I might have missed it in my busy schedule this year.

    Microsoft warns Asian governments of Linux suits

    Friday, November 19, 2004 Posted: 1:19 PM EST (1819 GMT)

    SINGAPORE (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. warned Asian governments on Thursday they could face patent lawsuits for using the Linux operating system instead of its Windows software.

    The growing popularity of Linux -- an open-code software that is freely available on the Internet and easily modified by users -- is a threat to the global dominance of Microsoft's Windows.

    Linux violates more than 228 patents, according to a recent report from a research group, Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said at the company's Asian Government Leaders Forum in Singapore.

    "Someday, for all countries that are entering the WTO (World Trade Organization), somebody will come and look for money owing to the rights for that intellectual property," he added.

    The Open Source Risk Management Group said earlier this year that potential intellectual property claims against Linux could expose users to unexpected claims that might result in lawsuits.

    Software developer SCO Group Inc., which claims that Linux is based on its Unix software, is suing companies including International Business Machines Corp..

    Singapore's Ministry of Defense last month switched 20,000 personal computers to run on open-source software instead of the Microsoft operating platform.

    Other governments in the region are also looking to use more open-source software. China, Japan and South Korea this year agreed to jointly develop applications running on Linux.

    At a conference in Milan later on Thursday, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates avoided a direct answer when asked whether he was worried about competition from Linux.

    "In the market where Microsoft is, there's a lot of competition," he said. "We compete with Unix and we're doing very well because the Windows (market) share has increased every year. It's out there; it's something we compete against."

    The Chinese government, in particular, sees its reliance on Microsoft as a potential threat. Conspiracy buffs believe certain patches in the Windows code might give U.S. authorities the power to access Chinese networks and disable them, possibly during a war over Taiwan.

    Ballmer said the security fears some governments had about using Microsoft software were overblown.

    "We think our software is far more secure than open-source software. It is more secure because we stand behind it, we fixed it, because we built it. Nobody ever knows who built open-source software," he added.
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    I decided to go looking for who made the claim and found more details from Linux Devices' Article about Linux Labs
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    Software developer SCO Group Inc., which claims that Linux is based on its Unix software, is suing companies including International Business Machines Corp..
    Hmm. Could this be a setup for SCO to sue M$ too? I mean... Dos was based on Unix, and Windows evolved from Dos...
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    Originally posted here by |3lack|ce
    I mean... Dos was based on Unix, and Windows evolved from Dos... [/B]
    Not NT.

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    i think this seems more like a threat than a warning.
    Hmm...theres something a little peculiar here. Oh i see what it is! the sentence is talking about itself! do you see that? what do you mean? sentences can\'t talk! No, but they REFER to things, and this one refers directly-unambigeously-unmistakably-to the very sentence which it is!

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    but wasnt the unix source code sold and given to universities and stuff, after at&t was done with it? how is that copyright enfringement?

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    There was some discussion about why this threat was made on The Reg...........They have a follow up article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11...inux_with_nec/
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    ..and in case you missed the main point.

    "The trouble with walking into someone's restaurant and saying: 'Nice little place, would be a shame if it burned down, know what I mean?' is that the threat is empty unless you also send an enforcer around to collect," remarked one pundit. "Right now, even if the Asian companies Ballmer is blustering to feel scared, their only choice is to close down. They won't do that. They'll hang on and see how much protection money is asked, and how much muscle the protection gang can use."
    Funny.
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    Originally posted here by !mitationRust
    Not NT.
    Actually NT was based on it slightly. And the guys who worked on VMS worked on NT. Not that VMS is a UNIX but some parts of NT were. If you think about it all OSs are based on UNIX. They all owe to UNIX, as UNIX has survived longer than any OS before it.

    There was some specualation that Windows Server 2003 had UNIX in it too.

    For the other person who was saying something about UNIX in Colleges and how they were using it and the source code, well, how do you think BSD came about? Berkeley had UNIX and started working on it and back then BSD was mainly just tapes of Code for UNIX pretty much. BSD also gave the World Vi which was supposedly just a front end too Ed or whatever the hell ersion of Ed it was.

    About 2 weeks ago Novell found some paperwork which showed they still have rights on UNIX.

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    and in case you missed the main point.
    "The trouble with walking into someone's restaurant and saying: 'Nice little place, would be a shame if it burned down, know what I mean?' is that the threat is empty unless you also send an enforcer around to collect," remarked one pundit. "Right now, even if the Asian companies Ballmer is blustering to feel scared, their only choice is to close down. They won't do that. They'll hang on and see how much protection money is asked, and how much muscle the protection gang can use."

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    Thats why i posted.

    MS, may be the biggest company in the world but, AFAIK gun boat diplomacy died the same time the British Empire did. If i was the Presedent/Dictator/Leader of a far eastern country. I would have had the **** locked up, for threats against my nation. Then I would not have released him untill MS removed every copy of there OS from every pc in my country and replaced it with Linux.

    I'm not a rabbid MS hater. The aragance of the company knows know bounds though.
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    Originally posted here by gore
    Actually NT was based on it slightly. And the guys who worked on VMS worked on NT. Not that VMS is a UNIX but some parts of NT were. If you think about it all OSs are based on UNIX. They all owe to UNIX, as UNIX has survived longer than any OS before it.

    There was some specualation that Windows Server 2003 had UNIX in it too.

    For the other person who was saying something about UNIX in Colleges and how they were using it and the source code, well, how do you think BSD came about? Berkeley had UNIX and started working on it and back then BSD was mainly just tapes of Code for UNIX pretty much. BSD also gave the World Vi which was supposedly just a front end too Ed or whatever the hell ersion of Ed it was.

    About 2 weeks ago Novell found some paperwork which showed they still have rights on UNIX.
    Yeah, I just remember catch saying, "Windows NT did _not_ evolve from DOS, it evolved from Secure XENIX which in turn came out of Secure MULTICS.".

    Him giving input on actual OS design projects and whatnot.

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