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    'White Hat' Worm, White hat perspective..

    I'm writting this in response to all those 'white hat' worms being released on the internet...



    'White Hat' worms aren't really white hat, only their users can be white hat, they are just worms programmed against 'black hat' worms. They can be used for grey hat purposes, but are still called 'white hat' worms(Ex. using a 'white hat' worm to remove a 'black hat' worm on computers that you don't have permission for).

    Most people have this little voice inside their head that tells them to become a hero, someone for the kids to look up to. Why wouldn't you want to be a hero, well Heros are an opinion of someone, not always a good opinion. Using a worm to remove other worms from the entire internet would make you a hero to some, but a "hacker" to others. Once you penetrate into a computers that isn't yours, you suddenly cause the IT department to spend money on that computer for inspection costs, but not every computer has a IT department with it. What if that worm that you sent had a bug in it, that might cause alot of money to be spent to fix it. White hats should only use 'white hat' worms on computers you only have permission for, otherwise your not a white hat. I read an idea to prompt the user to install the patch, but that is still a bad idea. That signature prompt would latter be used by black hats. The point of the promting would be to keep ignorant users safer. Let's just keep the informing the user via E-mail/IM.

    The black hat world has many heros in it for the kiddies to admire. In the white hat world, there just isn't much of a place for heros. If your a grey hat, then go right a head. For the white hats out there, just remember keep those 'whit hat' worms on your own network.
    \"keep your friends close, your enemys closer, and your administrator closest.\"

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    Quite so, they take up resources, and mess up your system if they are badly programmed. There is no such thing as a "white hat worm", just some arrogant little "holier than thou" b******d behind them.

    The "rules" are simple

    1. Don't dare run anything on someone else's system without permission.
    2. If you want to be a missionary, join a religious order

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    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
    As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
    What profiteth a man if he gains the entire World at the expense of his immortal soul?

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    White Hat worm == The nightcrawlers I use for fishing bait.

    Black Hat worm == All others.

    Nuff said.
    Even a broken watch is correct twice a day.

    Which coder said that nobody could outcode Microsoft in their own OS? Write a bit and make a fortune!

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    There are no moralitys, there is no "good or evil" within I/O. This is the dumbest thread I've seen all week.

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    TheSpecialist:

    You said:
    There are no moralitys, there is no "good or evil" within I/O. This is the dumbest thread I've seen all week.
    Until you can acquire the mental perspicacity to assimilate the concept of the difference between right and wrong, why don't you just STFU?

    The only thing dumb on this thread has been your post.

    Of course these are purely my personal opinions, I cannot speak on behalf of the AO membership, JUPM, the mission statement (please read the opening page) etc..................

    Just my worthless opinion of course
    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
    As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
    What profiteth a man if he gains the entire World at the expense of his immortal soul?

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    I know the difference between right and wrong... and the only thing wrong here is your concepts and mentality. I've said it once already, the internet is a medium not a planet.

    Its because of people like you I could be fined up to 5000$ each time I decide to go agianst a EULA by replacing a few values to 00 or 90 in a few files on my own hard-drive... infact just by viewing it through a 3rd party program would be enought to get fined and possably arrested.

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    Why is it I am put in mind of a Marines Corps' officer assessment report.....................?

    "Since my last report, this officer has reached rock bottom, ..............and started to dig"?


    I know the difference between right and wrong... and the only thing wrong here is your concepts and mentality. I've said it once already, the internet is a medium not a planet.
    And a court of law is where you will be sentenced to a spell of reality with bubba?

    Its because of people like you I could be fined up to 5000$ each time I decide to go agianst a EULA by replacing a few values to 00 or 90 in a few files on my own hard-drive... infact just by viewing it through a 3rd party program would be enought to get fined and possably arrested.
    Yes, sort of..................I would be looking for more like 10-20 or even an "extended tour of duty"

    This is a security site, please get used to it.................your hippy/yob/gobshite/hick attitude is actually no longer amusing................your anal/excremental obsessionism is not exactly today's news either...................why don't you go play Russian Roulette with a Colt .45 auto..............remember to take a couple of "oiling shots" first



    And have a very Merry Christmas!
    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
    As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
    What profiteth a man if he gains the entire World at the expense of his immortal soul?

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    Perhaps a stint in a nice cold cell will teach him to spell POSSIBLY.

    I'm curious though at

    I know the difference between right and wrong...
    and

    |The|Specialist is a dangerous criminal and generally not a nice guy, just ask anyone else here.
    as posted here => http://www.antionline.com/showthread...0&pagenumber=2

    Is it that you're so immature as to actively choose to be a criminal, or that you simply wish to be thought as one because you think it's 'cool'? Grow up, kid. Come back when you actually have something of real value to contribute.
    Even a broken watch is correct twice a day.

    Which coder said that nobody could outcode Microsoft in their own OS? Write a bit and make a fortune!

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    Please post your opinion of the article and not of each other.
    When you do post your opinion, don't post something like this:
    Originally posted here by TheSpecialist
    This is the dumbest thread I've seen all week.
    If your going to post something like that, be more exact.


    TheSpecialist-

    Keep this in mind next time you reply,
    Thanks
    \"keep your friends close, your enemys closer, and your administrator closest.\"

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    There are no moralitys, there is no "good or evil" within I/O.
    Where there are intentions... there is morality. When someone releases code, their purposes could be to gain wealth, status, promote good or evil or whatever among many things. Morality is involved forming those intentions.

    The author of Sasser had an evil purpose, and the author of Welchia/Nachi may have had good intentions. The intentions of the latter is the point of the thread.

    So, are "Whitehat worms" ethical / good...
    While the intentions may be for good, the damage or impact they can have on a network may be worse than the worm they were chasing. In Welchia/Nachi's case, it opened 300+ connections to spread 'round 30 times faster than Blaster... which caused large amounts of congestion. If an author could create a worm that would patch each system in it's path and have absolutely no undesireable side effects on any network or host it enters, then wonderful... MS would have written then for the DCOM and LSASS vulns. But obviously it's impossible to write perfect code, and impossible to write a "whitehat worm" with the intended outcome of good.

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