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    I know QB, but im way ahead of you oldies now, im learning *drumroll* Visual Basic, thats right, point, click and tpe some code...
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    I`m with TheSpecialist...

    As for learning to "hack", start with TCP/IP illustrated Volume 1, and learn the wonders of TCP/IP...and dive into a coding language, Perl or Python are good fun and not too tricky.

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    neel, you love other people's PHPbb admin panels. So shut up.

    /me changes his .htaccess to 777

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    Sheesh, someone mentions kiddies and they all come crawling out of the woodwork. Special-ed is the new pied piper of kiddiedom!

    Anyway, to really get a handle on the best way of breaking something, you need to know the ways its commonly put together. Frequently the best "hackers" (and I use the term to refer to the non-kiddie variety) are those who have at least the knowledge level of maintaining and administering systems. You'll probably find it extremely rare that those with that talent hit a certain age and opt to stick with it though, as what's a fun hobby when you're sixteen can make you some decent money when you're twenty, though operating on opposite sides of the proverbial fence.

    Basically what I'm trying to say is learn how to build a secure network, and you will gain the knowledge to break insecure networks. This applies equally to other areas of high tech as well (ie: Software Development).

    EDIT: By the way, why'd this guy get negged so hard? I mean, change the overtones of hacking to "security research" and I bet you $20 the post doesn't get hit so hard. Just because it's trendy to call a whitehat a "security researcher" instead of a "hacker" doesn't make it any different a job...
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    Just like Blow job and .... Well I guess going that road is different. But "I suck for cash" and "Prostitute" are the same thing.

    I have 5, count them, 5 9s on my LAN.

    If you ever get the chance to REALLY break something, do it on BSD, seriously it's funny when it crashes, it swears at you.
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    some things can't be taught ,you needto learn them yourself
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    Like English.
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    I might suggest a good first place for you to start is to look at your own server, and how it is "secure", Behind a firewall? Ok, what ports are blocked, and why? What ports are open and for what purpose? Not behind a firewall? Ok, what happens when you connect to a share..?
    If you DO try out some of the "scripts" out there, and for one reason or another they dont work, you have no idea why, unless you take the time to understand what it is suspose to do and HOW.

    A decent book to check out is "Network Intrusion Detection, An Analyst's Handbook" By Stephen Northcutt (thanks Ms Mittens)

    But honestly, it is hard to break something you have no idea how it works in the first place. Hacking is more about exploring how things work then anything else.
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    Originally posted here by MrCoffee
    But honestly, it is hard to break something you have no idea how it works in the first place. Hacking is more about exploring how things work then anything else.
    |The|Specialist puts a trumpet up his butt then blows as he starts marching... fallow me, kids!

    No no no... you've got it all wrong. That stuff they say about learning & exploration is bullcrap. Why explore? Well because its expected of you to do so... plus the more you pretend to know some crap, the more the other losers respect you. And THATS what its about. Its about keeping an image. I mean, your talking about a group of people who are so uptight about this image, this inferiority complex that builds up inside them, that they feel a need to label themselves something that sounds sexier than computer enthusiast or what have you.

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    I can understand where this person is coming from. I'm just starting out with infosec. It's very frustrating at the beginning when you can't do anything, you don't know where to start or even what to ask.

    It is (or is going to be) a significant part of my job to perform vulnerability testing on our network. I don't know how to do that yet. I've bought some books and I asked my boss for some more PCs. I've now got 2 extra machines networked together and when I get some time I'll start to work through the books (network security assessment, O'Reilly is about as setp by step as I can find at the moment) and I'll start to learn.

    I'm hoping sometime soon something will click, I'll have a eureka moment and then things might get easier. 'till then I'll just have to persevere. I think this will be much the same for you.
    Get some books, get a network and put the theory into practice. Just reading isn't good enough for me it doesn't stay in my head that way.

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