February 15th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Still downloading free music
Users just record off the sound card. Is it me or are some people missing the point that you cannot prevent the theft of music / videos.
February 15th, 2005, 10:05 PM
People are always going to find ways around copy-protection schemes. The RIAA is always going to create new ones. And on and on.
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wiseman knows himself to be a fool - Good Ole Bill Shakespeare
February 16th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Yea you're right. But you know, every conference, site, forum I belong to advocates security and its process. Yet still we have to deal with this...
Is no one listening? WTF? As Gore attests to, there are too many stupid users. Technology cannot prevent stupid mistakes.
And for those who still ignore the threat of identification theft and security risk (based upon "we're a nice honest community" - whether it be LAN, WAN or snail Mail; be advised. There are only four Brooklyn Bridges in the world and I have three for Sale!
I'm probably too drunk to hit the submit reply button but every now and then you have to say WTF
February 16th, 2005, 06:03 AM
It all boils down to the fact that the RIAA/MPAA are dinosaurs. They need to ditch the outdated business model and embrace "digital distribution" or wander off into the tar pit and join the rest of their kind.
It isn't paranoia when you KNOW they're out to get you...
February 17th, 2005, 12:42 AM
allenb1963 on the RIAA
Originally posted here by allenb1963
I've been listening to this P2P debate for almost as long as it has been going on......
[rant]Songwriters DESERVE to get paid for their efforts.....I have to say that up front. I have no problem with that....creativity deserves to be rewarded.
I grew up in the age of vinyl records...8 to 12 songs on a big black piece of plastic that cost ten bucks AFTER taxes at the most. If I recall correctly, one MASTER disc of stainless steel was "cut" (engraved) and then the actual "press" disks were made from the master. The pressing disks wore out rather easily so the manufacturing process was quite expensive. When the CD came along (at $12.99 IF you were lucky) it was marketed as "music that will last forever" (tell that to anyone who has small children and CD's in the same house) and that as technology improved, manufacturing costs would drop and CD's would become less expensive than albums (vinyl). To add a little extra perspective, during this period of time I was able to buy floor tickets (5th row) to see the Rolling Stones for $18.50.
Fast forward to the present day....the price of CD's has "fallen" to 14 to 16 bucks (even if you count inflation it still ain't a "price drop", especially since I can buy blanks for about 15 cents each) and those 5th row seats to see the Stones (this tour sponsered by Geritol and Depends) cost in excess of $200. Ask why ticket prices are so high and you'll hear that they went up as stage productions got more elaborate and costs increased. Dig a little deeper and you'll find out that the majority of the band's income is from CONCERTS, not sales of their CD's. The CD royalties are diverted to cover the costs associated with making the latest CD. Who collects those costs? The RIAA....thats who. Unless you are a PROLIFIC songwriter in the same league as Bruce Springsteen or Dolly Parton (both with well over 1000 published works under each of their belts) then basically you aren't going to see JACK-S**T for your efforts....there are recording artists who DIE every day STILL indebted to the "almighty" RIAA. The RIAA, on the other hand, has it's grubby little paws in my pockets, your pockets, Bruce and Dolly's pockets and is now trying to get legislation passed to make sure they get to keep them there. If that doesn't work then they will show their true facist faces by hacking out systems, bombarding us with lawyers and confiscating our hard drives.
So listen up Hillary, Adolph, or whomever controls the RIAA now. When you come to my house you better pack your lunch and bring a SWAT team....it's gonna be a loooong day cause this old redneck ain't going down without a fight. [/rant]
Hmm...theres something a little peculiar here. Oh i see what it is! the sentence is talking about itself! do you see that? what do you mean? sentences can\'t talk! No, but they REFER to things, and this one refers directly-unambigeously-unmistakably-to the very sentence which it is!
February 17th, 2005, 01:52 AM
allen, they're not dinosaurs, they're just pissed that someone figured this out before they did and that they didn't make as much money as they could have. In marketing speak, they "lost" money - ie they didn't make the full potential.
And I completely agree with your post quoted by (V)/\><.
I have been saying for years -- no matter HOW much protection there is on CD's, vinyl, digital format, even IF computers didn't exist anymore, there will STILL be a way to copy music and movies. I just can't believe it took the media so long to catch up on this particular method. ohh boy, I feel a rant coming... eh... I better not.
Remember, if you can see it or hear it, you can always record it.
Alright Brain, you don\'t like me, and I don\'t like you. But let\'s just do this, and I can get back to killing you with beer.
-- Homer S.