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    Lagging computer performance

    It was suggested to me that to improve the performance of my computer I should...

    disable System Restore (Right-click My Computer --> System Restore tab). Finally, disabling the useless "last access time" feature of the NTFS filesystem can yield a performance boost, especially on a slow HDD. Try adding the following entry to your registry:
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    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\FileSystem] " NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate"=dword:00000001
    I was wondering what you guys think...not that I don't trust the source...I just trust your opinion more.

    Eg

    I have a very slow Windows 2000 Pro at 500mhz and I'm looking for ways to speed this puppy up.

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    Hi Eg~

    Please have a look at this site:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mrx9000/

    Paul Brown is pretty cool on tweaking most flavours (flavors ) of Windoze............I have used his "Xen" app for some years now.

    500MHz and a slow Windows 2000 installation does not sound right to me..............It is one of my favourite OSes (it is actually NT5.0) because it works just fine on boxes that don't quite "make the grade" for a good WinXP experience How much RAM do you have?

    You might like to check ric-o's post about the latest version of Win Patrol...............that has a lot of useful utilities to show you what is going on. You can "suspend" stuff to help you with tuning.

    I am sure I read somewhere that Win 2000 runs about 8% faster than WinME? so you should be fine on a PII/266MHz for example.............and you obviously have much better than that.

    We need to look into this a bit more closely, can you post your full system specs?

    Cheers

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    Hi nihil,

    I just downloaded XEN and XENTWEAKS but I can't try them yet as I have to find a ZIP program to unzip them...I know where to look for them, so that's ok. I don't buy anything on-line so I'll look for a free download...or pick something up at the store.

    About my system specs...how do they look ?

    Eg

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    Do you have any [?] showing in device mangler ?

    R/Click My Computer
    Properties
    hardware tab
    device manager .......

    Are there any question mark symbols [yellow] or X [red] showing ?

    Double click to get to get to the properties, and see what, if any, conflicts there are.

    I'm no expert, but four items on IRQ 9 ?

    I'm assuming that it has all been set automatically ?
    If they're showing manual set, check the auto box in the resources tab.

    OR : would it be a good idea to set MANUALLY these four items, to see if that make a difference ?

    I wouldn't do that [manual] just yet Eg just wait for the cavalry to arrive............
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    Hi foxyloxley,

    Checked Device Manager and there's no ? or X's yellow or red markers...everything listed ( and I clicked the + on each one ) seems to be exactly the way it should be.

    Checked Start-up in Systems and the only one I don't recognize is: TkBell.exe

    Checked under Services: these are the only ones running that look out of place :
    Background Intelligent Transfer Service
    DHCP Client
    Messenger
    Remote Access Connection
    Remote Registry Service
    RunAs Service
    Telephony
    Distributed Link Tracking Client

    Checked in Running Tasks: again I don't know about these:
    mmc.exe
    svchost.exe
    stisvc.exe
    mstask.exe
    lexpps.exe
    spoolsv.exe
    lexbces.exe
    lsass.exe
    csiss.exe
    smss.exe

    Does this help more ? Anything strike you as odd ? I have, awhile back, printed out BlackVipers Windows 2000 Registry papers but I haven't done anything with them because I don't know enough to tackle that yet.

    thanks,

    Eg

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    Hi Eg~

    Sorry for the delay........Saturday + shopping + wife

    Yes you seem to have 4/5 devices sharing IRQ9..............that seems excessive to me (agree with Foxy~ on that one) I would look to move:

    IRQ 9 ESS ES56H-PI Data Fax Voice Modem
    IRQ 9 ESS Solo1 PCI AudioDrive [WDM]

    onto other IRQ slots

    Also, you are sharing your IRQ slot 9 between a modem and a 10/100 ethernet connection........is this thing on a network? if not, please uninstal the network card in device "mangler" as Foxy~ so delicately describes it

    As for unzipping, you should be able to get a 30 day trial of Winzip, or PKunzip...........they actually run for ever, if not, PM me and I will try to send you a free (all totally legal) one...........do you have Gmail?

    Hmmmmmmm................you are running a hell of a lot of services there?.............like I asked, is this on a network and does it share with other machines? I will get back to you when you answer that question

    But you look like a safe haven for spammers and God knows what at face value ..................remote access?...........remote registry?........run as?............I don't even trust myself that well..............

    Cheers

    Get Win Patrol and start suspending a few?


    EDIT: sorry I forgot.........your system specs, it should go like moose dung off a shiny shovel..........as we say over here in the frozen North (of England)

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    Hey Egaladeist

    I can't help you with the hardware issue (if there is any) - so I leave that
    to the experts. Of course, the less services you have running, the faster
    your computer is. However, if you have activated to priorize foreground tasks,
    this does not matter much, I think.

    But let us try to look at a few security issues.
    As per the services...
    I might give you some hints. Actually I recommend
    theeldergeek.com[1].

    - setting automatic is fine for:
    Background Intelligent Transfer Service (gets updates while network idle time)

    - setting manual might be fine for (depends on your environment)
    Remote Access Connection
    Telephony
    Distributed Link Tracking Client
    DHCP Client

    - setting disabled is fine for:
    Remote Registry Service
    RunAs Service
    Messenger

    However, fine tuning might be adjusted if we know in which environment
    this machine is (standalone, LAN) and how it is connected to the internet
    (dialup, router, bridge, ...)

    As per the running tasks...
    mstask.exe for example is the task manager. It ran when you checked for running tasks.
    I recommend to use a tool like process explorer[2] which gives you the full path. This is
    just an indication, but it might help us further. Most of the tasks looks reasonable
    (you have a lexmark printer attached?).

    Cheers.

    /edit: as per tkbell.exe[3]. liutilities.com-processlibrary is rather useful, however
    you have to check what you current have installed on your system. if you have
    realplayer and tkbell.exe is where it should, wherever that is , this is fine.


    [1] http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm
    [2] http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/fr.../procexp.shtml
    [3] http://www.liutilities.com/products/...ibrary/tkbell/
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    Hi nihil, foxyloxley, sec_ware,

    I think I did these in order...

    first nihil

    I'm a sloooow one-finger typer so bear with me...

    how do you move them?

    nope...no network...but I'm pretty sure this was on a network before I bought it.

    no G-Mail.

    no sharing.

    how do you suspend?

    now sec_ware

    dial-up.

    process explorer[2]?

    lexmark printer attached? Yes.

    realplayer. Yes.

    general info

    under drivers, there's about 160 units listed...79 running

    under services 62...33 running

    under running tasks 32 items listed

    and loaded modules won't give me a reading

    whew...

    Thanks,

    Eg

    OH...how do I change from manual to auto...etc...

    I did check out the elder geek...but it's for XP and I'm running Windows 2000 Pro...or does he have a section for 2000...I didn't see one but I was only there a couple minutes?

    I don't ask many questions but when I do...

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    OH...how do I change from manual to auto...etc...
    re-read my other post.
    when you get to device mangler

    open a section as mentioned, double click will open the properties box, in there, there is a check box, to get into auto, check it. Manual, un-check it.

    No network : strip and remove the ethernet card.
    first : device manager to network adapters.
    double click the ethernet
    open the drivers tab, uninstall drivers.

    to move IRQ :
    uncheck the auto setting box in the relevant window. ie: open the audio drive, resources, uncheck the auto box.
    this should now allow you to set the IRQ manually.
    you should be presented with a list of available IRQ no's - choose the LOWEST one.

    continue till both the offenders are on their own IRQ.

    Yes, there WERE four.
    removed ethernet = 3
    leave ONE on No9 = TWO to go

    suspend :
    go to start
    run
    type services.msc
    into the cmd line
    enter
    it will open a window to the services
    down to 'messenger' [as an example]
    double clik to open properties box
    drop down menu select disable
    under service status hit the stop button
    hit the OK

    go to next on list.

    lexpps.exe
    spoolsv.exe
    lexbces.exe
    these are your Lexmark printer and spool service. OK

    don't forget :
    copy and paste any of those 'running tasks' and services into GOOGLE
    for info
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    Hi Egaladeist

    Thanks for providing the info.

    Concerning services:
    - BlackVipers[1] page is the way to go, but you said it does not help you much.
    The elders geek page is in general a good source of information - albeit it is
    adjusted to WinXP.

    - The services can be adjusted by
    Run.Open and enter "services" or "services.msc" (have no machine here to test).
    When you click on a service, you can start/stop/restart it - and set the property
    to automatic/manual/disabled.

    - I recommend for your setting (however I would write down what you are doing
    in case something is not working as you wish).

    . setting automatic is fine for:

    . setting manual might be fine for (depends on your environment)
    Background Intelligent Transfer Service (put also auomatic would be fine)

    . setting disabled is fine for:
    Remote Registry Service
    RunAs Service
    Messenger
    Remote Access Connection
    Telephony
    Distributed Link Tracking Client
    DHCP Client

    When you got a feeling for that, you might again check BlackVipers page.

    Concerning tasks:

    I guess I was a bit quick with the process explorer. It might be an overkill.
    cmdline[2] will suit your and our needs. It prints running tasks inclusively
    path to the command line.

    These issues here are just a few things - after having that complete list of
    running tasks, you might try to increase the speed a bit. But if it really
    pays off - I don't know

    Cheers

    [1] http://www.blackviper.com/WIN2K/servicecfg.htm
    [2] http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.ph...onsole-cmdline
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