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    ISP is watching you...

    Is it true your ISP (lets just say COX high speed internet)"records" your internet history?If so,how detailed is it?Particularly,if i'm on a P2P network do they "record" each thing i download or just log that i had connected to its server?

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    Why not call them and ask them? If they are recording your activity, surely they will tell you?
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    Listen kid, let me give you some advice............I will cut to the chase so to speak...............not only will they know what you jerk off to, they will give you points out of 10 for style

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    Originally posted here by nihil
    Listen kid, let me give you some advice............I will cut to the chase so to speak...............not only will they know what you jerk off to, they will give you points out of 10 for style

    HAHAHAHA..........Nice

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    I did a quick web session with their online support...

    Online Chat Support:

    Status: Analyst jonathan is here and your issue status is: working Problem:I know ISPs are required to log customer internet usage. What type of information is logged? How much detail? How long is it stored? Is the customer allowed to view what information is logged about the customer?

    user phishphreek has entered room

    analyst jonathan has entered room

    jonathan> Welcome to Cox Live Support, my name is Jonathan and I can help you.

    phishphreek> hello, how are you tonight?

    jonathan> Unfortunately, I do not have such information available. All that I know we track is what IP address you have and when you have it.

    phishphreek> so, customers are not allowed to view what information is logged about them? Who do they have to contact to get such information?

    jonathan> Just one moment Please. Thank you for your patience.

    jonathan> I've been informed that the only logging we do is querying the modem for modem status and potentially hazardous open ports. You can send a request for this information to support@cox.net if you wish.

    phishphreek> thank you for the information

    phishphreek> have a good night

    jonathan> Again my name is Jonathan. Thank you for choosing Cox Communications. Have a nice evening.
    Please contact them directly if you have any more questions.
    They have the ability to monitor everything you do... maybe you have to "raise a red flag" for them to actually log detailed info? Logging such info about all users would surely use up quite a bit of resources?

    I see that they monitor for "potentially hazardous open port"... meaning that they are scanning your for viruses, open relays, other servers? Their AUP says you can't operate any server...

    http://www.cox.com/policy/#Acceptable_Use_Policy
    http://www.cox.com/policy/#Subscriber_Agreement
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    Ok, first things first - since my brain is now officially beyond being offended:
    Imparticularly
    Did you happen to mean "In Particular?"

    Now onto your help -

    Reading between the lines of your question puts me in mind to translate it for everyone: "I'm thinking on doing something illegal, or have already done something illegal. Can my ISP see what I'm doing or have done?"

    So I answer this way:

    Yes, they record. Yes, they record EVERYTHING, even your piss poor diction in your AO posts, the porn you look at, the warez you download, the works. The catch is this - they don't have time to look at the EVERYTHING they record, and they won't tell you what they're looking at from one day to the next, if anything at all. Attempting to do anything illegal from your home system is a big gamble with the deck stacked against you; you might not get caught out, but odds are you will. The first trick in doing illegal activities is to BE your isp...or to know someone who is and how to get to them...

    Hat tips to Phishy on this one, but just because they tell you they aren't recording doesn't actually mean they aren't, only that they're not telling you about it...
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    The first trick in doing illegal activities is to BE your isp...or to know someone who is and how to get to them...
    Or... someone elses ISP... A laptop, power inverter and a wifi card will do wonders. LoL

    I'm not condoning illegal activities... just been seeing that more "criminals" are now using open APs to conduct their illegal activities. I warn my clients of such vulnerabilities if I see an open AP on their network.
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    Hi. The OP didn't say he was interested in doing anything illegal. There is also not very much to the post to read between the lines. We have to go by what was posted and reply according. One can assume all they want, but it's important to reply to what was posted. Inquiring about logging activities does not flag one a possible malicious user.

    I am more interested and suspicious of those "free" "anonymous" proxy servers on the internet. If memory serves me correct, nothing is "free" and everything has a price.

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    I've found tor to be pretty effective when trying to stay annonymous.
    http://tor.eff.org/

    However, this will only make your activity annonymous to the remote site. Your ISP can still see what you're doing. You are using your ISP as your "first hop". They can capture anything between you and the first hop... (their router)

    Some services such as http://www.anonymizer.com/ will let you encrypt the traffic between you and their proxy so your ISP can't see what you're doing. They supposedly don't log anything though... not sure if they can get away with that or not.

    It was recenlty just advertised on "the screensavers" by that guy who used to do "the broken" videos... He said he asked the anonymizer company if they can see what you're doing and they say they don't keep logs. They were supposedly serverd suponeas and couldn't provide the info cause they "don't log". Who knows how true that is...

    http://www.anonymizer.com/anonymizer2005/1.5/help/
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    Wow, wish I could green you for the Tor link but I keep getting a "spread your AntiPoints" message.

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