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April 12th, 2005, 07:33 PM
#1
Anti-spyware group Coast hits an iceberg
The Consortium of Anti-Spyware Technology vendors (Coast) was founded in 2003 as a nonprofit group of anti-spyware companies to help establish industry-binding guidelines defining spyware and a code of ethics surrounding the distribution of desktop software. But in February, co-founder Webroot Software dissented when, according to its vice president of research, the group sought to reform adware developers by helping them change and become certified Coast members....
....The walkout had come just weeks after the group welcomed as a member adware maker 180Solutions, a company whose practices have been repeatedly in the spotlight. That decision capped growing frustration over the group's direction, according to representatives from Aluria and Webroot, making it impossible for them to remain.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5...=zdfd.newsfeed
From the COAST code of ethics
http://www.coast-info.org/codeofethics.htm
Members and member products or services may not:
Provide incomplete uninstalls
Utilize drive-by downloads
Send or cause to send unsolicited email
Participate in bundled installs that do not disclose info in EULA, or has a confusing EULA or is buried in the EULA
Engage in misrepresentation of intention: a product should do what it promises to do; further, it should not omit or hide activities
Provide fully automated product updates without the user's awareness: they may only be done with specific customer consent
Connect to a remote system without the user's awareness to transmit usage statistics and/or personally identifiable information
Modify web page information as displayed by site operator: replace text/graphics, substituting ads for other ads, etc
Think the companies that left had doubts their new member met this criteria?
\"You got a mouth like an outboard motor..all the time putt putt putt\" - Foghorn Leghorn
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April 12th, 2005, 09:08 PM
#2
Think the companies that left had doubts their new member met this criteria?
From the article mentioned:
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=265877
Edelman has published a detailed research report about 180solutions that calls the company's installation practices unethical.
I am not surprised that they have finally dissolved.
Wise men talk because they have something to say;
fools, because they have to say something.
Plato
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April 12th, 2005, 09:11 PM
#3
Old saying that "Set a thief to catch a thief."
Although "Cat amongst the pigeons" seems more apt
Too many cooks
Fox to guard the chickens
Your turn
so now I'm in my SIXTIES FFS
WTAF, how did that happen, so no more alterations to the sig, it will remain as is now
Beware of Geeks bearing GIF's
come and waste the day :P at The Taz Zone
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April 12th, 2005, 09:54 PM
#4
Foxy:
SNAFU
.... nuff said?
Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
\"A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools.\" - Thucydides
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April 12th, 2005, 10:33 PM
#5
have read here also
http://www.revenews.com/wayneporter/...0565.html#more
180solutions.. dunno which is worse their ethics or their software..
"Consumer technology now exceeds the average persons ability to comprehend how to use it..give up hope of them being able to understand how it works." - Me http://www.cybercrypt.co.nr
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April 12th, 2005, 10:38 PM
#6
from 180Solutions' website:
180solutions is a leading provider of Internet search marketing solutions. We provide search assistant software that delivers consumers to highly targeted websites on behalf of advertisers when they are searching the Internet for products or services.
Yeah, *here's* a group that I'd want establishing "industry-binding guidelines defining spyware and a code of ethics surrounding the distribution of desktop software..."
meh, what a crock...
-Wiski C.
EDIT: This guy nailed it: http://netrn.net/spywareblog/archive...tops-the-list/
BTW, TigerShark's post reminded me:
http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/s/SNAFUprinciple.html
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April 12th, 2005, 10:51 PM
#7
highly targeted websites on behalf of advertisers
Basic translation:-
We provide content sorted precisely by the amount of cash the lame crap provider of "content" pays us. As a genuine search engine we absolutely suck but we make the interface look pretty and give the moron users lot's of opportunities to try to get "free stuff" while we collect their personal information and sell it for yet more profit to other virtual sharks that will eat them alive like we are trying to. Then we give them the rubbish from our highest paying customers which are usually shady lying bastards that are doing the same as us.... but luckily the (L)users are absolute morons and still use our uttlerly useless "service"
There are numerous "search engines" out there that do exactly this.... 180solutions is one of the _high_ level pieces of crap that invades systems whenever, however and in any way they can.
Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
\"A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools.\" - Thucydides
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