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    Actually, what I did to collect all those pictures was quite simple. I used my GMail account to subscribe for a Yahoo profile, then subscribed for several dozens of picture-trading groups. Then wrote my own mailreader that would read all incoming emails from this mailaccount and extract the images from these emails. Any image that would be smaller than a certain size (320x240 is the minimum) would then be discarded. And I would calculate a hash signature over the other pictures and store these signatures in a database to check for duplicate images. Duplicate images would be deleted too. Whatever wasn't discarded ended up in a single folder which I would then examine with Paint Shop Pro to delete the less interesting images.
    What remains are those 590+ images. The remainder of an interesting experiment. (And something that is interesting enough to view, yet not something to get real excited about.)

    There are pictures of me on that site but I keep them hidden.

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    katja... just because every single instance of sexual abuse has not been coupled with porn does not mean there is no connection.
    Sexually abusing one's daughter is not in the same league as violent rape, in fact in many cultures it has been perfectly acceptable for daddy to give his daughter an education in such matters. What makes matters difficult for those children these days is all the secrets and lies and how their psyche is given no room for such things. Unlike rape which is, in and of itself damaging.

    There have been connections shown between porn/slasher movies and violent sex offenders (many of whom, like Bundy who didn't actually own any porn and was known to be vocal against such things in his youth... in fact this denial of shadow material is a big part of all o this) so much so that it is part of the FBI profile when tracking violent sex offenders.

    The same deal with necrophiles, they inevitably move on to killing people rather than just digging them up. The limbic system is easily desensitized, which is why addicts need more and more cocaine or what have you. Dopamine drugs effect the same physiological components of the brain as porn does. This is not conjecture or propaganda, it is medical fact.

    If the limbic system can turn nice college girls into whores that'll suck any **** for the hopes of some coke residue, why would it surprise you that it could drive people to rape and murder? Everyone? No of course not, but clearly the risk is greater than the gain.

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    Porn, like all limbic triggers is basically addictive. All things that are addictive have some degree of desensitizing effect. Once the subject is desensitized they need increasingly additional external stimuli. People go from porn to rape/killing... not from nothing to rape killing as katja assumed. There is always a progression to human depravity, always babysteps, always getting away with a little more.
    I'm not sure I agree wth this totaly, I agree with the desensitizing effect ( seen one porn movie seen them all), I also agree with the baby steps analogy. However to take what you have said at face value, would mean every one who was addicted to porn would follow a natural path to rape/murder. This is clearly not what happens.

    There must be a prior want/need to carry out a rape or murder. Clearly these people have a screw loose same for pedo's. Exposure to violent porn, I think would just be a stop gap untill they could have the real thing, so to speak.

    Untill very recently, probably less than ten years, it was nearly impossible to get any hard porn in the UK, It was illegal to sell or to bring into the country. It was only with the advent of satalite tv, that porn became more accessible. Still illegal but more widely accessable. The internet widend the accessability even further. To the point that keeping UK porn free was impossible.

    I'm not sure why these laws are being discussed now as the type of porn we are talking about has never been legal. When the Government relaxed our porn laws, bestiality and violent porn was expressly forbidden along with kiddy stuff.
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    Katja;


    Originally posted here by mark_boyle2002
    Hey Katja,

    If you went camping, And woke up in the morning,
    Covered in bruises and sore all over.

    A Tub of lubricant next to you.

    Grass stains on your knees and elbows. Would you tell anyone ?

    No where here does it say that you were aware of a rape, if you cant remember being concentual at the time, does that mean you were not concentual then? is it still rape if you change your mind afterwards? who's to know?

    On a small tangent, mark_boyle2002; I said "can be conciderd non concentual", cant give your concent if you are not deemed fully self aware.
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    A couple of points,

    Hi slinky2004,

    don't quite understand your point in giving that link...unless it was a lame attempt to embarrass or discredit her in front of a different crowd...even if those are her, and she claims they're not, there's nothing to be embarrassed about...naked pictures of you on the other hand...

    Hi jinxy,

    There must be a prior want/need to carry out a rape or murder. Clearly these people have a screw loose same for pedo's
    Couldn't agree more! like these kids that go off and do something stupid because they read it in a book, or saw it on tv, or heard it in their favorite music...they have a natural/unnatural tendency toward these things.

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    What the frig does this have to do with ' Regulatory Compliance '?

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    I'm not sure I agree wth this totaly, I agree with the desensitizing effect ( seen one porn movie seen them all), I also agree with the baby steps analogy. However to take what you have said at face value, would mean every one who was addicted to porn would follow a natural path to rape/murder. This is clearly not what happens.
    This doesn't assume that at all... does everyone who gets addicted to cocaine become a coke whore? Nah... the brain is so complex that there are not 100% rules across the population.

    Exposure to violent porn, I think would just be a stop gap untill they could have the real thing, so to speak.
    This is bad thinking... the idea that porn/violence in movies/pictures will appease people and keep then from acting it out. Someone who has underlying psychological problems... is giving them cocaine likely to appease their problems or foster a new addiction?

    Sure giving a standard well adjusted person a stack of porn, and they are not likely to have any issues with it... at least not to the extent of killing or raping. Take someone who has been abused, is a little timid and damaged... and introduce these images of power and degradation. Turn them on, while making them feel powerful in a way they never have before. (especially after abuse at the hands of their mother, so they feel completely divorced from their sexuality) Now you have a problem on your hands. If those images had any good aspects, it'd be arguable... but really I can't see the value aside from free speech issues and if people in the UK want free speech, come to the US. We have more sexualized violence than we know what to do with.

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    Originally posted here by Noia
    Katja;

    No where here does it say that you were aware of a rape, if you cant remember being concentual at the time, does that mean you were not concentual then? is it still rape if you change your mind afterwards? who's to know?

    On a small tangent, mark_boyle2002; I said "can be conciderd non concentual", cant give your concent if you are not deemed fully self aware.
    You are right about that but I consider it extremely unlikely that I will ever have sex with a guy. It's not my preference. And it's that simple in my opinion. Maybe you would have gotten a different answer from another woman who doesn't have my preferences, though.

    Alternatively, if you can't remember that you've had sex but it is clear that you did have sex recently, you could start wondering if it was really consentual or if someone perhaps slipped you something to make you more cooperative. As I said, when I go out, I always go out with several friends and we stay together at all times. We guard each other. We also guard each other's drinks, in case someone slips something in it.

    Originally posted here by Egaladeist
    don't quite understand your point in giving that link...unless it was a lame attempt to embarrass or discredit her in front of a different crowd...even if those are her, and she claims they're not, there's nothing to be embarrassed about...naked pictures of you on the other hand...
    Oh, I'm not that easily embarrassed about those things. I'm pretty openminded and am also pretty open about my private life, if I care to talk about it.

    Now, about the big porn discussion... Is it addictive or not? Does it encourage guys to start raping and killing women? As far as I know, this still hasn't been proven. People claim that the number of rapes is increasing because the number of porn is increasing too. Yet porn tends to desensitise people too and actually makes them more open to talk about things like sex and rape. So it could be that more people are reporting that they have been raped simply because they are more open about it.

    I live in the Netherlands. The amount of porn that you can find here is enormous. I've seen billboards here displaying bare female breasts. And after 8 in the evening there are several Dutch channels that will broadcast some more adult material, including softcore porn. In bookstores you can often find the porn magazines near the location of computer magazines and believe me, some of this stuff is pretty heavy material. (Including gay porn, the male-male stuff.) And of course you can see plenty of nudity at other locations too. Yet I don't think the number of rape cases is higher here than in a more conservative country. I think we have even a lot lower number here.
    Thing is, because we are so open about sex and porn, it actually starts to become a defense mechanism. People will have a lot less problems to talk about the things that happened to them. So when raped, people will talk more easily about the details. Of course, we have rapists here too, but in general I don't think we have more rapists per 10.000 people than e.g. the USA or any other country.

    Too bad we still don't know how many women are still too ashamed to talk about them being raped...

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    This is bad thinking... the idea that porn/violence in movies/pictures will appease people and keep then from acting it out. Someone who has underlying psychological problems... is giving them cocaine likely to appease their problems or foster a new addiction?
    Catch,

    Thats not what I meant, I didn't mean to imply appeasment, we all no what happens when you try to appease a madman (peace in our time??). What I meant was, we all have things that trigger reactions emotions. I just feel if someone is depraved enough to commit a violent crime sexual or other, they will. With or without having looked at representations of it first.

    I'm all for freedom of expression, free speach but I also believe in censorship. Which to some may seem like a contradiction but thats their problem not mine.
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    quote :

    "LOL.

    Its been such a long time on here since we had any fun.

    We used to have the occasional post where people had their sticks temporarily removed and actually had a laugh to relieve the boredom this site sometimes suffers from.

    Its refreshing to see someone else with a sense of humour who seems to be quickly ascending the ranks.

    Some of you old school monkeys should take a leaf from her book and lighten up.
    It may be a computer security forum but theres nothing saying we have to be boring about it !.

    Anyway. It appears to me that with the exception of HTReGz (Known for his stick) most of the top 10 antipoint earners are able to have a laugh and an off topic thread on occasion to lighten up the mood.

    Anyway. With the addition of a thread titled pron did you expect me not to post ?"


    the reason she's "ascending the ranks" is because of her unbelievably insightful and humorous contributions ... YEAH RIGHT? It has nothing to do w/ the fact that she's 19 y/o Dutch lesbian who has tons of pics of naked girls/women (of which some may or may not be her) YEAH RIGHT?

    ... Why don't you send her some money while you at it ... **** ... it's just in the name of friendship and humor ... or maybe stop having theological discussion w/ every dits that flashes her sexuality your way(even over the internet)

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    While we're off the topic . . .

    Come on, Unhappy. That may be the reason she attracts some flirtation, but AP's ? She hasn't received any in this thread and from what I have seen gets them quite legitimately. Direct your comments at mark_boyle or slinky, not Katja, who does in fact have worthwhile things to say and handles these jerks very well. Have you read through her posts ? Ditz is the last word I would use.
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