January 5th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Stealing The Network - anyone played with ndos?
I was browsing around the net and I stumbled across Fyodor's chapter from "Stealing The Network: How To Own A Continent" - which he put up for free on his site about one and a half years ago. You can view the chapter here.
I was just wondering if anyone had come across Fyodor's ndos tool (mentioned in the article, and in this interview). It looks quite interesting, so I wanted to hear some opinions on it (if there are any!)
January 6th, 2006, 01:55 PM
hmmm, so from what i gather. Ndos i a denial of service program that can disable a website/corporation from one box? rofl
I own the earlier book "stealing the network: how to own the box" and to tell you the truth i had to skip past most of the stories....
but, i think fyodor created a "similar" ndos, put is portrayed to sound better for the book.
p.s. if this "so called" ndos hit the web, all skript-kiddie hell would break loose lol
January 6th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Yeh it really would be chaos - but I'm not sure how one box could disable a website using it, which is why I was asking. I'm just trying to figure out how it would work without using any zombies or something like that (but from the 'options' in the story, this isn't a possibility).
January 6th, 2006, 02:33 PM
This Ndos tool sounds pretty interesting, so I googled it to see what I could find.
The best definition I could find of it was as Network Denial Of Service tool. Is this the same definition?
I did find the following PDF from Georgetown. It seems to give some good explainations of how it might be possible and what the future holds for such an attack. But is this the same method that Fyodor is talking about? It seems to be.
That is all I can seem to offer on the topic, but am very curious about it!
I'm just trying to figure out how it would work without using any zombies or something like that
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu
, The Art of War
January 7th, 2006, 01:11 AM
I read an interview with Fyodor where he stated that he had indeed written nDos, but that he would not release it since he could not see that the benefits outweighed the risk. I would assume that it's quite old though, as it was possible to DoS a lot of old equipment with only one host.
January 7th, 2006, 01:47 AM
January 7th, 2006, 02:49 AM
DOH! I actually did not see your post at all, I saw Modderfokker's post as the first one.
Kjelltr - Is the interview you're talking about the one I linked to in my first post, perchance? Please read before you post...
I must have hit the scroll wheel by accident or something.
Off to hide in the corner now....