Nsa Spying On Us!!!!!

[csl]

CNN.

An alarming article to say the least... the leader in national security 'inadvertently' spying on its users? Heh.. give me a break. The article is very well written, I suggest giving it your time.

[csl]

CNN.

An alarming article to say the least... the leader in national security 'inadvertently' spying on its users? Heh.. give me a break. The article is very well written, I suggest giving it your time.

[the_JinX]

There was a thread here late last year that touched on this topic..
It turned into a 'trust your .gov the islamo-fashists are the enemy' and 'it`s the browser maker`s fault' thing before there was any good conversation though..

"Considering the surveillance power the NSA has, cookies are not exactly a major concern," said Ari Schwartz, associate director at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a privacy advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "But it does show a general lack of understanding about privacy rules when they are not even following the government's very basic rules for Web privacy."

I agree that .gov's should set an example..
And there for should be the first to implement their own rules !

But this kind of thing pales in comparisson to the freedoms the US citisens seem to be willing to offer to their government in return for a temporary feeling of security..
With the new phone tap bills and all..

[the_JinX]

There was a thread here late last year that touched on this topic..
It turned into a 'trust your .gov the islamo-fashists are the enemy' and 'it`s the browser maker`s fault' thing before there was any good conversation though..

"Considering the surveillance power the NSA has, cookies are not exactly a major concern," said Ari Schwartz, associate director at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a privacy advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "But it does show a general lack of understanding about privacy rules when they are not even following the government's very basic rules for Web privacy."

I agree that .gov's should set an example..
And there for should be the first to implement their own rules !

But this kind of thing pales in comparisson to the freedoms the US citisens seem to be willing to offer to their government in return for a temporary feeling of security..
With the new phone tap bills and all..

[genXer]

Just found an interesting article just published discussing the NSA spying more in depth:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011201520.html

And a couple of interesting blerbs:

President Bush said Wednesday, for example, that he would welcome a congressional investigation of his authority to order the NSA program, saying it would be "good for democracy." That was a sharp change in tone from the initial White House response, which was to demand an investigation into who had leaked the story to the New York Times.

An abiding theme of American history is the tension between our constitutional freedoms and our national security in wartime. The country is beginning a new chapter in that debate, and the challenge will be the same as always: to use tools that can enhance security, but in a way that does not unduly diminish liberty.

Also many of us applied and either received or will receive a kit from the NSA - so that just authorizes them to spy on us all they want - right?!?

The NSA kit thread to which I refer gentle readers: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=271726

[genXer]

Just found an interesting article just published discussing the NSA spying more in depth:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011201520.html

And a couple of interesting blerbs:

President Bush said Wednesday, for example, that he would welcome a congressional investigation of his authority to order the NSA program, saying it would be "good for democracy." That was a sharp change in tone from the initial White House response, which was to demand an investigation into who had leaked the story to the New York Times.

An abiding theme of American history is the tension between our constitutional freedoms and our national security in wartime. The country is beginning a new chapter in that debate, and the challenge will be the same as always: to use tools that can enhance security, but in a way that does not unduly diminish liberty.

Also many of us applied and either received or will receive a kit from the NSA - so that just authorizes them to spy on us all they want - right?!?

The NSA kit thread to which I refer gentle readers: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=271726

[Syini666]

It really shouldnt come as any suprise, its what us 'paranoids' have been telling the rest of the world for years now. As for the change in tone now welcoming an investigation that probably indicates that anything too horribly incriminating or damaging has been taken care of and no longer poses too bad of a PR nightmare. It is quite true that we shouldnt be that concerned about cookies when the NSA possess a far more advanced system of snooping which can go far beyond just placing cookies on our computers.

[Syini666]

It really shouldnt come as any suprise, its what us 'paranoids' have been telling the rest of the world for years now. As for the change in tone now welcoming an investigation that probably indicates that anything too horribly incriminating or damaging has been taken care of and no longer poses too bad of a PR nightmare. It is quite true that we shouldnt be that concerned about cookies when the NSA possess a far more advanced system of snooping which can go far beyond just placing cookies on our computers.

[morganlefay]

Ok...how bout conspiracy theory here....

NSA...releases worms to infect as many users as they can...to spy on them....

Personally...I wouldnt put it past Busypoo

MLF

[morganlefay]

Ok...how bout conspiracy theory here....

NSA...releases worms to infect as many users as they can...to spy on them....

Personally...I wouldnt put it past Busypoo

MLF