routing issues

[Godsrock37]

so i have a dedicated firewall up connected to my internet. on the inside i have subnet 192.168.0.0 with the firewall as a dchp server and then my home router using the firewall as a gateway. the home network subnet is 192.168.1.0 so just in case your still not following

internet --> dedicated firewall (.0.1) --> (.0.200) home router (.1.2) --> home computers (.1.x)

i can get internet, and i had some people test it and port forwarding works so that people can access the server on my home network, but when im logged into the server, i cant ping anything inside my homenetwork. also, when i try to access my server as if from an outside host (using my external ip) i get timeouts. whats up? i have no idea on this one

what ive tried:
taking down my router firewall

route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0

route add -net 192.168.1.0 gw 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0

and thats about it... so any help would be greatly appreciated

[Godsrock37]

let me know if this makes any sense, but i put a crossover cable instead of a patch cable in between the firewall and my home router and it seems to work now... i dont know why but maybe someone can explain it to me

[brokencrow]

It looks like the subnet is the netmask actually: 255.255.255.0

What I'm guessing is happening here is you've got a firewall (the Smoothwall?) up in the "front", then the router behind that. If the DHCP server is enabled on both the firewall and the router, you have in effect a LAN (192.168.1.0) within a LAN (192.168.0.0). Is your router is pulling an IP address from the firewall, then in turn assigning IP addresses to your home network? You've got a couple of layers of networks in there. Some of your complications are probably coming from that.

Try giving your router a static IP address from the same range as the firewall (say 192.168.0.254), then disabling DHCP on your router and plugging it up to the firewall via a LAN port instead of the WAN port (or maybe stick with the crossover on the WAN port). That will in effect turn your router into a switch, I believe (that, or go buy a switch). If the Smoothwall's DHCP server is enabled, then the home PC's should start pulling a 192.168.0.0 address. I'm not sure what effect the crossover cable has, except to have turned the WAN port into a LAN port.

K.I.S.S.

[fourdc]

The crossover cable makes sense if you are old enough to remember RS232 communication, you are connecting 2 DTEs together.

A computer is a DCE (digital computing equipment)
A modem, printer, hub is DTE (digital terminal equipment)

In a straight thru cable you connect a DCE to a DTE, the DTE is wired that the transmit leads attach to its receive ports.

Any time that you connect a DCE to DCE or a DTE to DTE the cable had to switch xmit and rcv. (crossover cable)

The $5 netgear hub I bought has a "smart" port system that does the switching internally, never need crossover cables.