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    I've been conned (phishing)

    hello my name is joe, im not very computer knowledgable, which has probably led to my nievity, which has led to me being cond. i saw an advert for a car on www.usedcarmart.co.uk which i obviously though was a ligitamate site. any way i found the only contact info for the seller was an email. the car turned out to be apparently from finland, although british car. we exchanged a few emails. he then said he was selling through ebay. i recieved what i thought to be an email from ebay. i payed through western union, which later i found out ebay never promote western union as a method of payment, so it turned out to be a mirrored ebay message, a fake, looked so real to untrained eyes, ive screwed up, iv'e lost 3,500.00, no car. i have been to the police,doubt they'll do anything. can someone else please tell me if there is anything i can do?
    i feel so stupid everything became clear soon after...

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    No, there is nothing you can do.............

    Except learn from your experience?

    This has nothing to do with computers, it is all about human greed and stupidity.

    Think of the old days before the internet .................. a "classified advert"......... in a newspaper or magazine...... would you have sent 3,500 to an unknown person, whom you had never met, for an expensive device you had never seen, or tested?

    Talking of stupidity, why is it I find something "wrong" about this post? OK: a clue in that the personal contact details were removed by an Admin?

    The English is very interesting............. some bits are quite sophisticated whilst others imply a downtrodden, working class, ill-educated person.

    We don't know about computers, but we can spell "phishing" in a particular way?.........a "mirrored ebay message"?.....

    JP old chap, please pull the logs on this one............ I think I have something for my mates in New Scotland Yard
    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
    As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
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    If you where stupid enough to send money to a complete stranger via western union. Then you deserved to loose that much money.

    at the end of the day, you have learnt a very very valuable lesson. Next time be more cautious, and use your head and think before you do.

    cheers
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    EDIT:> and why is this in Question about Antionline? Shouldn't it be in Phishing and Cyber Scams instead..?

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    My comments do not apply to the header.............I corrected that.........just read the rest.

    Scam artists are born every minute, as are their prey.............. I guess that is why e-bay have so many problems with fake auctions?

    If the guy is genuine, all he can hope for is the police.............. who might well write him off as a total pillock, and chase something more obvious?

    I wonder if this is not some exercise by university students?....... errrrrr Department of Psychology.......... we respond badly..... and when the "Job" arrive, they will be walking their house pets...... or sniffer dogs
    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
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    What a sad, sad way to reply to a quite simple request for some help or advice.

    I gotta say - the normal antionline standards of helpful, friendly advice seem to have slipped quite dramatically here.
    Why not help him out, and if you think he is not genuine, then just ignore him.
    I happen to know this guy is genuine. I spoke to him. At my house. In person. I explained what phishing is (including spelling) and I suggested he come here for some good advice. I wish I hadn't now.

    Anyway...

    Hi Joe, sorry we didn't get to talk a bit longer while you were at my place.

    Having had a quick look around myself I have some other links for you...
    It would seem that the site you mentioned is a genuine site. It's just the particular seller you had dealings with that is the scammer. usedcarmart.co.uk has a forum with a section dealing specificaly with scams...
    http://www.usedcarmart.co.uk/forum/f25-scams.html

    You could also try

    http://antionline.com/showthread.php?t=263266 for a contact directory related to anti Phishing.
    or
    http://www.euroconsumer.org.uk/index...rnet_fraud.htm
    and
    http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
    that last link is probably the most useful for you (though you will have to spend some time reading through it all).

    Good luck! I think you will probably need it.
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    Apologies for the reception he got. I guess we did think it wasn't genuine. Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPnyc
    Apologies for the reception he got. I guess we did think it wasn't genuine. Sorry about that.
    How do we know he is genuine.

    Anyone could drop a post saying someone was round at their house.

    What were the details that were edited out?

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    IT, e-commerce, Retail, Programme & Project Management, EPoS, Supply Chain and Logistic Services. Yorkshire. http://www.bigi.uk.com

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    We don't, but apologies are free. I edited out his email.

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    Tis the nature of the business of Computer Security....
    to be suspicious...trust your instints.

    I see nothing wrong with delving deeper into the issue to see if it is genuine request for help...

    This statement got my spidey sense tingling

    i have been to the police,doubt they'll do anything
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    Fair enough.

    I just wondered what it was, but an email seems fairly harmless... Excpet for the spam though.

    I've never needed to examine this any furthre, but if you use a Western Union transfer, then is there no validaion of the transfer destination?

    This must be a money launderers paradise.

    Steve
    IT, e-commerce, Retail, Programme & Project Management, EPoS, Supply Chain and Logistic Services. Yorkshire. http://www.bigi.uk.com

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