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March 1st, 2007, 09:03 PM
#1
Vista Security Tested
It appears to have out performed earlier Windows versions?
Interesting that a lot of the improvement seems to rely on you re-booting.......... so much for "up time" bragging rights
http://www.snpx.com/cgi-bin/news55.c...0850710?-11434
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March 2nd, 2007, 07:24 AM
#2
Interesting....but I freaking hate it kinda.
I put vista on my laptop and its always asking "Are you sure you want to Continue?"
If I click on device manager, I get that popup....change network settings, change the time, open a properties window, connect to a network, uninstall a program.
Hell, if I go to a command prompt and type
ipconfig /release
it tells me I need to have administrator privilges to execute that command, but my account is the adminstrator account!
Its pretty, but I don't like it...to much hassle for a power user i believe.
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March 2nd, 2007, 12:18 PM
#3
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March 2nd, 2007, 01:03 PM
#4
Ahahah, that is the most entertaining thing I have read here nihil in ages, and it gives me lots of ideas that were I to entertain them beyond my mind and into the real world would probably wind me up with a lot of 20mm holes in my body.
Back on topic that has to be a very annoying feature to be asked every time if you are sure about something, reminds me of the joys of being asked by w2k3 why i was rebooting or shutting down, damn annoying when you are trying to get the server shut down to get the hell out of class in a reasonable amount of time.
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March 2nd, 2007, 02:02 PM
#5
Well I am sure you will think me cynical here, but I suspect that this is very much a case of Microsoft "covering their six"...........
They have had a lot of criticism over the years over the "poor security" of their systems. If you look at the history, you will see that this was never an issue back in the days of DOS? computers were damn expensive back then, and generally only people who were knowlegeable and needed them spent the money. They were also unconnected, and there was no real "internet" as such.
Malware tended to spread through sharing infected media between machines. So, if anyone got infected, it was their fault for putting the infected media in the machine?
Now MS are going back along this route. "If you got infected you must have clicked yes, and you don't reboot your machine often enough to let Vista clean itself" that is your problem not ours.
The real problem is that I would suggest at least 75% of purely Windows computer users are neither computer literate nor security aware.
We just know that they are going to click "yes" don't we? and that they will always log on as administrator
Whilst I would say that Vista has greatly improved security capabilities, and certainly seems more secure "out of the box", the only way you will actually improve the overall security picture is by user education or giving them a dumb terminal
Naturally, these "improved" security features are annoying to computer professionals, but that seems to be the price you have to pay?
As for your W2K3 experience, I would say that it was quite reasonable behaviour. The majority of servers are not in a classroom environment and are not shut down that regularly? This is a Win 2000 client box, and when I tell it I want to power down it throws a popup and asks me what I want to do. Log off, shut down, restart, standby?
I just checked my Wife's Win ME box and even that asks if I want to:
Shut down
Restart
Standby
Hibernate
I believe that Win 98SE does the same but I haven't got one of those powered up at the moment.
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March 26th, 2007, 10:26 PM
#6
Back on topic that has to be a very annoying feature to be asked every time if you are sure about something,
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March 28th, 2007, 04:20 AM
#7
I don't mind the Shutdown Event Tracker in Server 2003. It can come in handy if you're looking to analyze downtime (via server shutdowns). Also, if it's that annoying, you can just disable it via Group Policy.
Open group Policy
Computer Configuration --> Administrative Templates --> System
Disable "Display Shutdown Event Tracker"
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March 28th, 2007, 10:40 AM
#8
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The same goes for the constant "press to continue" in Vista. If it bothers you, just turn it off (It bothered me, so I did... :P)
Just go to your usersettings and disable UAC.
I do use the shutdown event tracker, btw... I find that it can be handy at times to be able to know why a server has rebooted.
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March 28th, 2007, 04:11 PM
#9
Shutdown event tracker is cake. Meaning I like it.
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March 28th, 2007, 09:53 PM
#10
Yes, you don't have to endure UAC - turning it off was about the first thing I did in Vista. I also stopped it giving me balloon messages about less than ideal security settings.
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