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    Anyone know any tool can do bootable pwdump?

    There are lots of password dumping tools, like pwdump, pwdump2,3,4,5, samdump...
    But they all required a administrative privilege logged in. So I need is a bootable one. None of them can do bootable.

    I know ophcrack would do, it's a linux based tool. But I do not need to crack immediately. Any tool would just show the hash without cracking it right away?

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    have you tried helix i'm pretty sure it's got a psswrd tool, just download, burn the .iso restart and boot up into helix.

    Or just put the burnt CD in while still logged into windows ..

    http://www.e-fense.com/helix/

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    Backtrack 2 can do it

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    I really don't understand this question

    If I can log in as administrator, then what the hell do I need to crack a password for?

    As I see it, in real life, it is a multistage process?

    1. Boot from external source
    2. Run password extraction tool
    3. Crack password (in your own time)


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    I try to crack the password just to learn how to do it, in order to find out a way to prevent people crack it.

    Just like a company network security, he know how to protect company server by learning to hack a server frist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpthk
    I try to crack the password just to learn how to do it, in order to find out a way to prevent people crack it.
    You obviously do not understand the basics. If someone can get your password hash then they can crack it. All you can do is:

    1. Make your physical security such that they cannot access your passwords.
    2. Make the passwords long and complicated enough that their cracking tools either won't work, or take so long that they give up.

    Just like a company network security, he know how to protect company server by learning to hack a server frist.
    No, they don't................. most of them are "button monkeys" who only know how to use off the shelf tools. The whole industry is getting dumbed down, even the hackers................after all, why mess around for hours/days/months trying to crack a password, when a simple keylogger will tell you all that you need?

    Anyway, back to your question. You need a "live CD" or bootable medium that will get you in past the administrator rights restriction. On this media you add the password capturing tools that you want.

    You capture the password hash and save it to the media, floppy, usb or whatever............ you could even e-mail it

    THEN you use a cracking tool to find out what the password is.

    The process model is:

    Gain Access---->Extract Data----->Process Data

    Unless you are talking about an online/realtime/interactive attack, which you do not seem to be doing?

    You really need to read up on the larger picture of security models and concepts before messing around with skiddie cracking tools......... that is NOT the way to learn.......... trust me

    EDIT: Take a look at this to see what I mean about password cracking............ OK, they only suggest values for machines with capacities of up to 1 billion passwords a second, and assuming an even chance you can divide the cracking time by 2.............. but what if you have a complex password of more than 15 characters?............ not to mention if you used the whole ASCII character set?

    http://www.lockdown.co.uk/?pg=combi&s=articles
    Last edited by nihil; March 11th, 2007 at 11:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpthk
    I know ophcrack would do, it's a linux based tool. But I do not need to crack immediately. Any tool would just show the hash without cracking it right away?
    In Ophcrack, there is a button labeled "Save As", that should save the hashes in a text file.

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