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    New Antispyware Tool

    Hi, I came across this site:

    http://www.malwarebytes.org/

    It seems to have some potentially useful tools. In particular "RogueRemover" which is intended to combat those rogue anti-malware scam programs.

    They can be a bit of a pain to get rid of

    There is a free version of this software and it is recommended by Merijn of HijackThis! fame
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    Thanks for the link. I'll have to get RogueRemover and try it out. Yeah, they can be a pain. Mostly to the ones who see something say "removes...." and fully trusts it! If Merijn trusts it, I trust it. HijackThis has really helped me on many occasions.
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    Yeah, HJT is good and is now being looked after by Trend Microsystems.

    The problem with rogue antispyware as I see it is that it is usually installed by the user, and just looks like a regular application.

    They don't provide a reliable uninstaller
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    The app isn't bad, at least to do his job of spyware-remover.

    Is other of that fast, easy, lite and simple apps but do the job very well.

    I tested but not to well yet, nevertheless is a promising app by now



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    Quote Originally Posted by nihil
    Hi, I came across this site:

    http://www.malwarebytes.org/

    It seems to have some potentially useful tools. In particular "RogueRemover" which is intended to combat those rogue anti-malware scam programs.

    They can be a bit of a pain to get rid of

    There is a free version of this software and it is recommended by Merijn of HijackThis! fame
    I only use one spyware removal cause as long as it has the most important features (free updates and real time protection) it's great.

    I don't like to test out different types of spyware software... This technique worked for me: 1 antivirus, 1 anti spyware/adware a firewall and some knowledge about the Internet.

    Karl

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    Karl, please have the patience to read this carefully and listen to me

    I am NOT talking about your "true" spyware/adware here................this is a bit of a specialist problem.

    Somehow............it doesn't matter what the vector is; a program gets loaded on your PC. It has done so with admin rights and "looks" like a normal application. That is the problem...............none of your stuff will see it as malicious, because, in all truth, it is not. The malicious bit is when it tells you that you have X, Y and Z malware running and there is that small matter of the child pr0n you are hosting??????????????? get the picture?? so you are invited to send them $25 or whatever, get a full licence, and it will remove the offending items...............

    Removing that sort of crap requires a specialist tool, as they dig themselves in so deep they make Cong bunkers look like total exposure

    I posted this link because a guy I trust recommended it......... early days but he can ace about 235 of them, and I am sure that he is moving on

    "I don't like to test out different types of spyware software"............... why did you join this site then?............ hell, if the only tool you have is a hammer, then you will see every problem as a nail?

    We are a security site primarily, we discuss these sort of things, try different stuff out and so on............OK, NOT on our main production boxes

    Somehow, I feel that your wife has not threatened to divorce you if you brought another computer into the house.......... then turns up the next day with 4 Pentium IIIs that she had "liberated" from her workplace
    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nihil
    Somehow............it doesn't matter what the vector is; a program gets loaded on your PC. It has done so with admin rights and "looks" like a normal application. That is the problem...............none of your stuff will see it as malicious, because, in all truth, it is not. The malicious bit is when it tells you that you have X, Y and Z malware running and there is that small matter of the child pr0n you are hosting??????????????? get the picture?? so you are invited to send them $25 or whatever, get a full licence, and it will remove the offending items...............
    Indeed and they are trully a pain to deal with...

    There are some others specific tools to remove them like smitfruadfix and delpsguard that deals with PSGuard and variants but I think that this is the first I see that deals with more than one which is quite handy.

    Their database is based in the same philosophy that spywarewarriors' rogue-antispyware list which have tested almost every software related and keep a good and updated database of them


    The big problem with this rogue software is that they're very atractive and convincent at the same time to the eyes of the novice user. The method of infection is quite large, I remember some time ago they were loaded in several pages usin javascript language which excecute a remote installer with the only need that the user use the primary page just one. Another method that has become very popular this days is the codec-method, the user is prompted to download and install a codec to see an specific movie content.

    One big big problem is that most users say yes to everything

    In the other hand, antivirus (and even antispyware) software do nothing or too little and that's because they actually don't have to. Those rogue software by their self aren't virus (not all they to be real), once installed they "can" download virus remotly without user know about it or can just prompt the user to install them telling that is software needed to save their system

    Again, the problem is, users say yes/ok to everything...

    I don't have tested the Pro version of rogueremover to see what offer that free version no and how well works, I really hate buying software knowing that free of charge and open source software exist, but if any have tested pro version, please comment.


    The free version is complete enough from my pov, the database is quite large and as I said, this is (at least to me) the first app that can detect/remove several rogue software at the same time, so it have my vote




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    RogueRemover is a tool for killing virus. It is the first time that i have hearded of it, i will have a try.


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    Thanks, Nihil. I'll give that one a try...could've used it last night.

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    Hi brokencrow,

    Do you suspect that "smithkarl" might be "Karl Sultana", a NoAdware employee, by any chance?

    The fact that a product has been on the SpywareWarriors' list at all, is enough for me .............. and that one has. Just because you clean your act up to get rid of false positives and aggressive marketing may get you off the list...........

    Well that cuts no ice with me............ the fact that you resorted to those tactics in the first place suggests that you are trying to sell something that is inferior to those products that do not?

    "You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey" or something like that?
    If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
    As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
    What profiteth a man if he gains the entire World at the expense of his immortal soul?

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