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December 25th, 2007, 05:48 PM
#1
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Pagefile Disabled-But Not Really?
I recently upgraded my notebook RAM to 2GB, and with on board graphics it runs at 1780MB of RAM. A few days ago I decided to disable page filing to speed up response times. According to the virtual memory menu, 0MB is allocated in the hard disk to be used for page filing. If I use the task manager though it seems to indicate something different. Under the system square, it consistently shows next to page file 700-800M\1800M. It would seem logical then to assume the system is still allocating page file space, even after being disabled. Shouldn't that area read something like 0M\0M used? Could somebody please help me understand what is going on? Is there more I must do to completely disable PF and run strictly off RAM (which seems plenty large for the purpose).
Note: Running Windows Vista Premium
Thank you
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December 26th, 2007, 02:28 AM
#2
first. how did you do it?
second. what are you using your computer for? (ie. gaming, video editing etc...)
third. why would you disable your virtual memory? (page filing)
I was always told that it was a good idea to have page filing on, as a safeguard against BSD, and if you have memory leaks it would not be a good idea to have it turned off. If it is for performance, virtual memory is hardly used anyways, as long as there is abundant RAM...
please explain your purpose.
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December 26th, 2007, 10:40 AM
#3
Unfortunatly, with windows if you disable the page file option, then it will automagically turn it's self back on each time you power on your computer.
For some odd reason if you don't have it set on c:\ or have another hard drive in the machine with some page file then it will auto recreate one each time you boot up the machine.
Well thats from my own experiences anyhow, i'm sure that others might pop on in and say i'm wrong or something.
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December 26th, 2007, 12:04 PM
#4
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December 26th, 2007, 02:38 PM
#5
Originally Posted by Matty_Who
A few days ago I decided to disable page filing to speed up response times.
Don't. It'll actually run slower. Even though you have enough RAM windows (and most other modern OSs) will ALWAYS use some swap space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory
Last edited by SirDice; December 26th, 2007 at 02:42 PM.
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December 26th, 2007, 02:43 PM
#6
Originally Posted by t34b4g5
Unfortunatly, with windows if you disable the page file option, then it will automagically turn it's self back on each time you power on your computer.
For some odd reason if you don't have it set on c:\ or have another hard drive in the machine with some page file then it will auto recreate one each time you boot up the machine.
Well thats from my own experiences anyhow, i'm sure that others might pop on in and say i'm wrong or something.
No, it doesn't and yes you are doing something wrong
Oliver's Law:
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
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December 26th, 2007, 02:53 PM
#7
Here's a trick I use quite often.. Install your OS, install all your apps.
Go to the virtual memory settings. Select your c: drive, select "no paging file". Click on "Set" (most people seem to forget this). Reboot (page file is now permanently off) to safe mode. Run defrag to clean up.
Go to virt. mem. settings again. Select the drive of choice. Enter a minimal en maximum (same numbers). That will ensure the pagefile doesn't grow or shrink automatically (maximizing performance). And because the disk was defragged it'll take up 1 complete continues block. Click "Set", reboot.
Oliver's Law:
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
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December 26th, 2007, 08:48 PM
#8
SirDice: I use that same trick all the time too.
However, I was just cleaning a Win2k machine the other day, ( 196 meg ram ) and it automatically created a temporary page file in a temp directory. It advised me it was doing so, and warned me about having the page file turned off.
I don't know if it was the OS or the small ( relatively speaking ) amount of memory that caused it. It still allowed me to continue with the defrag unhampered though.
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December 26th, 2007, 10:50 PM
#9
Originally Posted by SirDice
Here's a trick I use quite often.. Install your OS, install all your apps.
Go to the virtual memory settings. Select your c: drive, select "no paging file". Click on "Set" (most people seem to forget this). Reboot (page file is now permanently off) to safe mode. Run defrag to clean up.
Go to virt. mem. settings again. Select the drive of choice. Enter a minimal en maximum (same numbers). That will ensure the pagefile doesn't grow or shrink automatically (maximizing performance). And because the disk was defragged it'll take up 1 complete continues block. Click "Set", reboot.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SirDice again.
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