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    Exactly!

    I am not sure what is in the default install, but I think that you get something like the add/remove Windows components screen if you select custom install.

    I can't comment on recent versions of the server because I have never thought to look, and I have never had to do a clean install of one since 2000server.

    I would mention that over here in the EU, MS cannot default media player in their installations.......... it is contrary to EU law
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    Yup, I remember when they got in trouble over that. As much as I thought it was funny I was a little weirded out they did it over MEdia Player which I don't mind as much when I'm installing Windows XP where I'm going to want it at first two rip CDs or whatever or make a playlist until I download something, I more or less think they should do it with IE. I mean if they at least gave you an option... And I don't mean a light version or a stripped one; I mean Windows XP should have the option NOT to install Messenger, OutlookExpress, and some of the other stuff where all you can do is remove it from the start menu.
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    Call me stupid but im sure you can remove OE , messenger in windows components under add/remove in control panel after the installation?
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    In XP? No, but you can remove it from the start menu. Which is what it says when you look for it in that area.
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    Outlook Express??????????

    I recall a while back when we had a BSE problem over here (Bovine Spongeform Encephalitis) a.k.a. "Mad Cow Disease"

    This spoof went round that OE was incapable of spreading this virus...........

    Bill Gates promised that this functionality defect would be rectified within the next 48 hours...............

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    Aren't software firewalls a bit passé?

    If you've got a decent gateway, why are you using something like ZA?

    The only time I really need a software firewall is when I'm on some public
    wifi hotspot. And that's so infrequent I consider Windows firewall good
    enough.
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    Anytime you connect to a wireless network or any network for that matter... you're allowing someone to view and edit sessions anyway. *Shrugs*

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    By a decent gateway - I have a decent NAT enabled router - do I still need a firewall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cider
    By a decent gateway - I have a decent NAT enabled router - do I still need a firewall?
    Your router/gateway is your first line of defense, as it should be. Do
    you still need a firewall app like ZA? No easy answer to that one. It's
    all relative.

    Laptops need a local (software) firewall. Treat all wireless networks
    as hostile environments unless nailed down (PC's authenticate against
    a Radius/AD server and the WAP's WPA-encrypted).

    In contrast, a desktop run on a hard-wired only LAN, behind a gateway/
    router, doesn't run nearly the same risk. On that kind of network, a
    software firewall might help limit a virus outbreak if you're not patched,
    but it's not necessary. The last time I was running ZA or Comodo, the
    overhead (system load) was a bit much in my book and was glad to move
    that function to another device.

    In defense of apps like ZA, I did learn a lot from the app about what the
    computer was doing at any given time and port behavior on a local machine.
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    But on a home PC a software firewall is not needed with a router with NAt enabled.

    No netwokred computers to prevent malware from spreading...
    Last edited by Cider; July 25th, 2008 at 12:01 PM.
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