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August 22nd, 2008, 07:08 AM
#51
Originally Posted by morganlefay
VM loves resources.....and depending on the OS you are running it on...and the OS you are runnning in the VM.....oh and lets not forget the applications and services on both machines.....you need a lot of fricken resources
Ain't that the truth. I finally sprung for a $2G's of new hardware, a dual-core
desktop and a laptop, the same. 2GB's RAM each. Nothing extraordinary by
today's standards, but after running other people's throwaways for years
(philosophical choice), I no longer "wrestle" with VM's as I once did.
Originally Posted by morganlefay
All MS Oses........and far too fricken many services and applications running on both....can be tweaked. (I didnt configure it...would like to though )
For now, I'm running Workstation v.5.5 on a ThinkPad T61. I can run two VM's,
say Fedora and W2K, on top of the XP host and this thing does not skip a beat.
Linux makes a better host than Windows though, but I'm not there yet. When
I told one of my co-workers I'm running VM's on Windows, my character apparently
came into question (not the first time!).
“Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.” — Will Rogers
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August 22nd, 2008, 08:51 AM
#52
Well im running 4gigs at home on vista and dont seem to have a problem running VM with mandrake.
Still figuring out how to isntall anything on linux. Why do you okes make it so hard :P
Nihil Panda should detect the malware now due to the files I sent however I think they are randomized so I dont know so much.
I am actually considering taking off Panda GP 2009 at home and get something that can detect this.
Is there something I an run in conjunction with this ? Worm Guard?
EDITNihil can you give me a link to WG as all the ones I tried, softpeadia etc gets corrupted on downloading.
Was trying to get the 4.0 trial but any version that works would be great.
Alternatively, zip and send to me
Thanks.
Last edited by Cider; August 22nd, 2008 at 09:19 AM.
The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
Albert Einstein
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August 23rd, 2008, 11:46 AM
#53
Please go here and have a look around. Don't forget to check out the free stuff as well, there are some interesting little utilities
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/
Make sure that you get RegistryProt.
Well im running 4gigs at home on vista and dont seem to have a problem running VM with mandrake.
The problem is with machines at the 1Gb level. That was a typical configuration for an XP home use machine, and still is for bottom end Vista boxes. Less than that and you should not even think about VM and performance unless you are running older OSes for research or legacy support.
Please remember that VM was never designed to be a security measure, unlike sandboxes.
Nihil Panda should detect the malware now due to the files I sent however I think they are randomized so I don't know so much.
Well the file names certainly seem to be randomly generated. That is why an internet search doesn't come up with anything.
I don't know about the rest of it though. Some malware is polymorphic, and changes its code with each iteration to obfuscate it from anti-malware scanners. It should still be detectable though, either because parts of the code must remain constant for it to work, or because of what it tries to do.
The latter should be picked up by behavioural or heuristic scanning.
If I was purchasing stuff I would buy SpyBot and/or A-Squared. Wormguard is a bit too specialist, although ideal for some of my clients.
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August 25th, 2008, 12:07 AM
#54
Junior Member
There's a good explanation of this at...
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August 25th, 2008, 02:24 AM
#55
Thanks, phoe - that's a very nice write-up!
I just submitted the "thing" to Virustotal, and there's still (after how many months now???) AV software that doesn't pick it up... And yes, Panda is one of the ones that doesn't pick it up...
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August 25th, 2008, 07:27 AM
#56
Last edited by Cider; August 25th, 2008 at 07:32 AM.
The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
Albert Einstein
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