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    Senior Member nihil's Avatar
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    RIAA butt kicked

    And about time too. The lady has been awarded the full legal costs.......... her counter case against the RIAA is still pending.

    Story is here:

    http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/22...s-107-951-riaa

    I thought you guys had laws about Organised Crime, Extortion, and Demanding Money With Menaces?

    I don't condone piracy or IP theft, but I most certainly don't believe that two wrongs make a right, particularly when the only wrong is on the part of the organisation that purports to want to make things right.


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    Four years ago the Recording Industry Association of America alleged that she and her eight year old daughter were downloading gangster rap songs to their home computer.
    "Music" like rap is almost entirely based around drum beats from the Winstons, George Clinton, and Afrika Bambaataa (who used drum machines anyway... which is silly)
    Last edited by The-Spec; August 16th, 2008 at 07:39 PM.

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    Sure,

    But that is the IP and plagiarism issue is it not? I see your point that the original material isn't actually original. However, I believe that most "copyright" stuff applies to the actual performance or interpretation of the original IP (score, lyrics, or whatever)?

    What I am getting at is there is a subtle distinction between:

    1. You are copying my original material into your claimed to be original material.
    2. You are performing my original (or owned) material.
    3. You are playing my original perfomance of any material.
    3. You are distributing, or obtaining that performance without licence.

    As I see things, this is all about the law, due process, malicious prosecutions, privacy, and your constitutional rights.

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    Yeah, it's extortion plain and simple. Show biz has been
    a subsidiary of organized crime for decades.
    I came in to the world with nothing. I still have most of it.

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    I don't know how much of a relief this really is for
    file-sharers. The article says precious little about
    the legal arguments and any case law. It'll be
    interesting to know more. Any Lexus subscribers
    among us?

    This may well trigger even more aggressive searches
    not just of PC's, but premises too. Obviously the
    fallout from this case is logfiles and packet captures
    are not enough to determine guilt. So the next step
    for the RIAA is....?

    And by no means is this case settled. This one'll
    go to appeals court. The RIAA has very deep pockets.
    Never forget that justice, IN THIS WORLD, is bought,
    pure and simple.
    Last edited by brokencrow; August 17th, 2008 at 09:57 PM.
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    Oooooh, the $107G's has been paid:

    http://www.p2pnet.net/story/16724

    The RIAA even called the 8-year-old's school posing as her grandmother:

    http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...prosecution%20

    And that case, and more!

    http://recordingindustryvspeople.blo...documents.html

    Kill The Sacred Cow.
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    Hmmmm,

    I don't know how much of a relief this really is for
    file-sharers. The article says precious little about
    the legal arguments and any case law.
    Good point! I really don't know, but I suspect that there is no real solace for the hardcore filesharer? They might even lose out, as the RIAA/MPAA is forced to be more focused, more professional............ and compliant with the laws and Constitution of the United States of America

    What we need is a nice, meaty, malicious prosecution/ harassment case that sets them back a serious number of millions...........................

    The RIAA was also accused of telephoning the child's school and asking to speak to her by pretending to be her grandmother.
    Conspiracy to kidnap?.................paedophilia?.................. nah! go for both, nobody would accept their lame excuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by nihil
    Conspiracy to kidnap?.................paedophilia?.................. nah! go for both, nobody would accept their lame excuse
    ...fraud.
    “Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.” — Will Rogers

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    ...fraud.
    Yes, on the face of it, there would seem to be a case to answer there?

    1. They attempted to obtain monies to which they were not entitled (by their own admission and the court's ruling).

    2. They used deception and identity theft to try to achieve their ends.

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    [sarcasm]
    Next thing you know they will claim that home cooking is killing the restaurant industry...

    Is sharing recipes going to be illegal?

    [/sarcasm]

    I dislike the RIAA
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