The original statement was "All christian churches consider them selves part of the holy catholic church" - it didn't simply say "catholic", it said "holy catholic church." That's not a matter of semantic ambiguity. This whole thing could have been avoided easily; a simple "I meant to say most, not all christian churches" would have prevented 90% of posts in this thread To see where I'm coming from, refer to dinowuff's post for an excellent example.