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    FBI Defends Disruptive Raids on Texas Data Centers

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokencrow View Post
    Very hard to map out this situation. Maybe it has something to do with the Conflicker worm spreading around. Or, maybe, the FBI is on to something and the victim is claiming ignorance. Maybe there is a thriving "underground" city living on those server domains. At least they posted a .pdf file which may contain the answer why.

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    The investigators affidavit reads like a novel. Very entertaining.

    http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/fil..._affidavit.pdf

    After reading this, it is easy to understand the rationale for seizing ALL the equipment.

    One moral to the story is to make sure you know who you are sharing rack/cage space with.
    In God We Trust....Everything else we backup.

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    All I can say is that is one organized patch panel... Or it was anyway...

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    Yeah, but look at it now.
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    Hey CSR....that looks familiar

    Wow Linen0ise....I like thet analogy.. "underground city"



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    Atlanta is like that. It's the only major city I've seen that has a subway system through their airport. And the subways in itself is like walking into a mall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheap Scotch Ron View Post
    The investigators affidavit reads like a novel. Very entertaining.
    The affidavit's a great read. I've only been thru it once so far. Typically, that stuff
    needs to be read two or three times to find any inconsistencies.

    What I find startling is the general lack of clarity in computer law(s). It's clear there's
    a fraud case here, but these agents went in with a blunt sword. Where is the due
    process in this case for the 300-odd companies directly affected by the raid? I've
    got to wonder what kind of litigation comes of this case. Law enforcement's so far
    behind the curve.

    I don't know how you determine who you're sharing rack space with. The real moral
    of this story is: backup, backup, then backup some more.

    Would server downtime due to an FBI raid count as a natural disaster? From the
    sounds of the agents involved, you'd think it was an Act Of God.
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    What I find startling is the general lack of clarity in computer law(s). It's clear there's
    a fraud case here, but these agents went in with a blunt sword. Where is the due
    process in this case for the 300-odd companies directly affected by the raid? I've
    got to wonder what kind of litigation comes of this case. Law enforcement's so far
    behind the curve.
    That's just it though. Am I the only one who realises that it didn't stop at just a rack and a few computers!? These people carried away anything with buttons or cords.

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    Or, maybe, the FBI is on to something and the victim is claiming ignorance. Maybe there is a thriving "underground" city living on those server domains. At least they posted a .pdf file which may contain the answer why.
    You're on the money there. If you read the affidavit you will see that there is a relationship between Faulkner and Simpson.

    Bad luck for co-locating at a site run by dodgy characters. OK the kit may be owned by innocent parties but when the people managing it come under suspicion for serious fraud, then everything is fair game.

    Not to mention $2.5M in your private account when your outfit has a gross revenue of $460,000 a year?

    That's just it though. Am I the only one who realises that it didn't stop at just a rack and a few computers!? These people carried away anything with buttons or cords.
    Yeah, as it is a fraud investigation all they should have been interested in is stuff that holds data?

    Mind you, why didn't the data centre have offsite backups?..........not a very good business continuity/disaster recovery model IMO.

    EDIT:

    More court documents on this link:

    http://securityfocus.tv/dallascolo/
    Last edited by nihil; April 21st, 2009 at 01:36 AM.

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