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    Browser wars again

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...eu-browser-row

    When you install Windows 7 you get a list of browsers and you just click on the one you want.
    So now there is no way anyone can complain that Microsoft is using its monopoly to force Europeans to use Internet Exploder, is there?
    But nooo, apparently someone can. This week a big cheese from the Mozorella Foundation claimed that the way Microsoft has proposed to get users to chose their browser was all wrong.
    Mitchell Baker said that a "ballot screen" giving Windows 7 punters the option of setting up Firefox, or another browser instead, was not enough to level the playing field.
    I never got an option to setup an alternative browser ...

    Anyhow I do not see why MS should give the option?????? I think they are being far to nice to even let the idea go through and then some idiot goes and complains that it isnt good enuf ...

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    Well, I still prefer to use IE for MS and some other applications' updates.

    I would have thought that anyone who wanted to use anything else would be quite capable of downloading and installing it themselves?

    MS's IE is the default browser for use with MS's operating systems. That is hardly surprising, and many people are quite happy with the default. It's almost like "inertial marketing"?

    Basically MS have a de facto monopoly of PC operating systems so it is bound to spill over into other products.

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    so does this also mean that Mac should not load Safari as the default browser? This is absolutely ridiculous. An operating system has to come with SOME browsers set as default, what would you expect it to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPnyc View Post
    so does this also mean that Mac should not load Safari as the default browser? This is absolutely ridiculous. An operating system has to come with SOME browsers set as default, what would you expect it to be?
    Hurrmmm...

    Mosaic or Netscape Navigator???

    Agreed - you have to have some type of browser. But none of the 7 installs I did prompted me for a Browser version.
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    I believe this is only for European versions.

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    I also have to point out that to say that anyone is "forced" to use any particular browser is a misuse of the word. If the user is not aware that there are other choices out there, it's their lack of knowledge which is hemming them in, in which case these other browsers should be on a quest to educate users, not to unreasonably accuse their competition.

    I don't for a moment deny some of Microsoft's business practices have been rather shady, but this isn't one of them.

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    When IE was default it was a problem. Now they are giving an option to decide what you want - it is STILL a problem.

    Just use the browser that you want. They added an option if you don't like it move on..
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    I have always thought that this focus on the default browser
    or media player is missing the heart of the complaint against
    Microsoft. The real problem is that, if they own the Operating
    System, they can destroy any company that writes software
    that runs on that OS

    Once upon a time they had an OS. Others wrote word processors
    games, web browsers. If the people who own the OS decide to expand
    into other apps, goodbye other companies, not just because they
    provide the default app for "free", but because the competitor's
    app suddenly doesn't run well any more. Has anyone noticed how badly
    Adobe's apps run lately? Are they really incompetent programmers,
    or is it because they can't get access to undocumented APIs?

    And don't get me started about Apple. They are much worse.
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    I don't use that many Adobe products but certainly their Acrobat reader I have always regarded as a hunk of crap, and it's not a recent occurrence. The first time I tried Foxit, I immediately deleted all traces of Adobe acrobat from my machines and they haven't seen me since.

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    The real problem is that, if they own the Operating
    System, they can destroy any company that writes software
    that runs on that OS
    Not if they want to stay in business

    because the competitor's app suddenly doesn't run well any more. Has anyone noticed how badly Adobe's apps run lately? Are they really incompetent programmers,
    I don't use them anymore. The quality is not like it used to be, and their security................

    I wouldn't blame MS for the less than stellar performance of FF 3.5.x either.
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