July 24th, 2001, 08:58 PM
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**** you all hackers, try hacking me.
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Haha, now don't you just love emails like this? This guy is so
confident of his system's security he offers hackers to try and gain access. Look at all of the
information he provided us about his site too!
I just wanted to inform you (if you're unaware) that you've been featured in the latest edition of Wired Magazine.
Also, I want to let you know that I've been including the stories you feature at antionline.com in my e-zine.
Keep up the good work!
Yup, it's true. My ugly mug is in July's editon of Wired Magazine. Look for me
under the "People" section. Also, it's great your including information in your zine that you've gotten
from AntiOnline. That's what we're here for, to help keep people informed!
The antionline site is great because it gives us info on what is going on in the world of hacking.
I have read through some of the mails that have been sent in - some are down right distasteful - good
you printed it so that we now know that "ABC India" exists, etc.
I would say that "hacking" is nothing great and that too by some teen agers. Today, telephone line tapping
causes much more anxiety. Hackers are generally people who have nothing to do and laze about, they are
not interested in studies nor in sports and therefore in today's world they are actually duds and want some
limelight focussed on themselves by means they are good at. Maybe a decade ago hackers were looked at
with awe - oh! how did he do it? Today there are faster processors and softwares available for hacking any
computer system connected to a telephone line.
You will agree that Indian software engineers do not have a parallel in the world. They are hard working geniuses,
I say this because many of them see worthwhile machine in their graduate level studies. A friend of mine is working
with Meryll Lynch in a responsible position. His thesis which is 9 yrs old are being copied by others even today.
We used to call him UNIX guru. Would you believe if I told you this guy never touched a machine other than a 386/AT
during his studies at Indian Institute of Science!! That was the time we were denied the XMP Cray. He was grabbed by
american firm within a year and has worked in sensitive projects in Washington.... he can hack a system in minutes but
will not do it even if he is offerred a million of dollar. If your system is in danger he will offer advise/help free of cost. Thats
what the teenagers in the western countries must learn. It is easy to murder a living but most certainly impossible to bring a
dead man alive. So thats a challenge and not the other way round. "Milworm" take a challenge and get shocked. Just let me
know via antionline any sign of your machine and keep it connected - since you are teenagers I will say that you will have to
buy a new machine or probably end up in an asylum! You won't understand anything technical I intend to do therefore I am
not wasting my time by spelling it out.
Wow! I'm not even going to BEGIN to question what sort of propaganda pull crap this
guy's been fed from the Indian government. But as for this comment:
"You will agree that Indian software engineers do not have a parallel in the world". Ever hear of Bill Gates
and Microsoft? Unix, hrm, wasn't that developed by Bell Labs? Oh, and exactly where did the Internet
originate? My point is not that the US is superior and oh high and mighty, simply that India isn't either ;-)
thanks for the source of new exploits and just plain good news.
Because of exposing some recent hacks and exploits we have prevented
several attacks. Here we run several unix servers and a few linux boxes, all of which were
making good jump points for an average of 200 unregisterd logins per day. I took over this
job about 2 months ago, since, we have reduced these break-ins to almost nothing. With the addition
of a firewall we have all but eliminated this problem.
No, thank you! This is what we love to hear. A techie viewing
AntiOnline and using it as a wake-up call. Time to secure those boxes, this isn't the
80s anymore. Keep up the good work Alan!
"...according to MSNBC the NSA watched the hacks in "real
time". So, yes, apparently, they did just sit back and watch
as their systems were being used to hack into a nuclear
research facility. How ethical is this? You be the judge."
Something that has been alluded to, but perhaps not well discussed, is that the US Govít is slow to move.
On the break-neck side of computer security, this is an unfortunate disadvantage. On the legal side, this is a
necessary and effective strength.
Sure theyíre slow to actÖ but the forces behind prosecution are tenacious and thorough. They gather their data,
work their case, then bring it all together with legal action. There is at least one (if not more) cases pending from
NASA attacks that are currently going down the winding road of prosecution. The evidence has been collected.
The case has been determined to be strong enough to pursue. And the appropriate agencies have been involved.
Those unfortunate souls who are targets of this action can expect legal activity in around 6 months or less.
Having said that, I would suggest that while the NSA might not have had a particular reason to stop attacks against Indian
sitesÖ they also might have been in the process of collecting evidence. Will Milw0rm get visits by MIBís in 6 months?
Time will tell.
Unfortunately, legal action seems to be the thing govít is best at. Itís their realm. Their game. When they play, theyíre
pretty sure the rules are stacked in their favor. It would be nice to see govít facilities "below" the NSA level get serious
about computer security. After all, you can punish the one who opened the bottle, but that doesnít put the genie back.
Locking the bottle up has a better chance of keeping things secure.
The only hopeful thing I can say is that this may be coming true. Computer security is becoming a political hot-button.
Those who are taking it seriously are starting to be recognized. And while the issues were always know, the money to
hire the expertise and manpower wasnít always available. With political "lives" on the line, this may also change.
Of course, this still involves the Govít. It isnít going to happen overnight.
Point taken. However, wouldn't you think the countries of the world would save
much more time and money if they patched up their systems so that they couldn't easily be broken into
in the first place? Just some food for thought.
I personaly think Milw0rm are media whores. I also think this
shindig here on antionline just feeds it. Weather there
criminals or not doesn't matter to me. But feeding there
egos. And i have no respect for them or any other type of
"hacking groups" That go hack things for the publicity, Just
so there big head will swell up alittle more. But then again
my opinions dont really matter. I just felt id speak my mind.
Ok, fair enough. As for your comments on the MilW0rm, well, I don't
know what they would say to them (well, I bet I could take a pretty good guess, but it probably
wouldn't be in good taste, hah). However, you're comment about my site is one I get a lot.
"By publishing information about security breaches, you're just encouraging other hackers
to break into systems." I'm sorry, but that's just stupid. The New York Times publishes
information about murders, do people accuse them of encouraging more murders? Larry
King Live is almost TOTALLY devoted to Bill Clinton and his little flings, do people
accuse him of encouraging other men to go have affairs? No, I think not. I'm feeling
that "online journalist double standard" thing going on here! Haha. Ok, I've vented, and
am better now.