ok,

im not trying to tell people that they should have this AV or there not protected.
all it did is explain why i tought these were the best. i listed several saying that they were good.
however i said in my own opinion that nortans was useless.
i explained why that was informativly and i appolagised for the sheep coment.

no where in that am i telling people what is without question better than another
in fact i suggested that people should explore all the good av's before making up there mind.

and sorry for posting in a old one, my mistake i 2 posts open at the same time and posted in the wrong one when i meant to go back and not post in the old one.

so all i suggest is that you try out the av's i listed as i think some of you out there might like them.