Ok if an av product doesnt detect something on your pc but something starts to delete files or stuff up the regestry. AV should kick in and worn you about virus like activity. So if you can make an exe/batchfile. That tells you to reboot and then leaps in befor your protection, on boot up, it should be able to do some damage, befor any protection can save your arse.

Could this be why we are seing different results from people that have tried it out??