yeah i've got 4381. it autoupdates automatically and it did it this morning. 2 of the servers abended after they updated im pretty sure. the i think like 2 previous dats even protect from the bagle-ai even, not sure about the doom. we use groupwise RoadClosed, we have a postoffice agent which transports emails outside (internet) and a local one that just does intercounty, both of them get scanned before the email reaches though with the Gee-Whiz program. So obviously gee-whiz isnt stopping them and its gettin through. We are planning on redoing the webserver though which hosts the gee-whiz and netshield, so maybe redoing it and reinstalling netshield should fix the problem? it wont be anytime soon though like hours or days.