Thanks all for the replys, I am using a firewall. The XP firewall is up and I am using zonealarm on the 98se boxes. The firewall has not stopped me from getting the internet on the one 98 se box.

I can't see the other machine from either box through the network connection. Also I tried to add another box and was unsuccessful, but I think that the ethernet card is bad. The router seems fine I can swap holes just fine with the other machine and it works fine.

Oh and using command lines is a little above my knowledge level right now as is configuring the Cayman router. Really I am not a lost cause I just need pointed the right direction in layman terms.

Thanks
Mike