All of them first and second router are 192.168.0.x.
the one on the first router that worked is 192.168.0.102
then the second router has an IP of either 192.168.0.97 or 98, one is used from inside and the other from outside. And the boxes behind the second router are 192.168.0.210, 192.168.0.101, and 192.168.0.211 (the fedora box that is now behind the second router cause I couldn't get it to work on the first). the DHCP pool is from 192.168.0.100-199, so most of the time it's 100-106, with laptops and stuff. But they are all on that 192.168.0.x range, there is no 10.x.x.x in my network. Just in case someone asks I tried pinging both ways from/to many boxes. (I tried to ping the box on the first router and a couple on the other on as well as trying to ping the fedora box from the boxes I was trying to ping). It's a mystery to me.