To answer Und3ertak3r the file is in c:\ program files\encompass and no it is not in the Startup files. As for nihil suggestion I use Housecall about once a month and it does not find it. What the one website related was a simple browser from Yahoo but my kid did not download it and because we have dialup anything that wants to be downloaded has to be allowed. I have set up the computer so nothing can download on its on. This program file seems to be bundled in the encompass file which is one of the programs that comes with my recovery cd I have never used the the encompass program so have no idea what it is. As for adaware and spybot neither one has reported this. It has not accessed the net if it tryed it would set off my firewall and my daughter knows if my firewall warning goes off to get me to check and see what caused it. I am using Sygates firewall and and AntiVir 9x kept updated and before the last update it did not show up. The file has been on my computer sence my last reformatting but has never been accessed. I am figuring because it has never been used that I can delete it safely any not have any problems. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard of this program before. But thanks for the ideas it makes me feel good that I am doing the right steps in protecting the computer.