Mistaken definition of a newbie.READ
Hello everyone,
I'm writing this thread to get something out that has been on my mind. I have noticed that some people are mistaking a newbie for someone who dosen't know much about computers, not security. It has been said many times before that a newbie is someone who is new to security/hacking, and everyone thinks they are just new to the computer. I am trying to tell everyone here not to mistake someone who asks "where can i get sub7?" or "how do i hack a computer" or "how do i hack hotmail" as a newbie, most call them script kiddies though. But some people new to AO are considering a newbie is just as bad as a script kiddie. Newbies want to learn. They don't want social status, they aren't evil. They are mistaken for lamers and script kiddies. Here is the definition of lamer from http://www.hackers.com:
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A lamer is not a hacker. Someone is classified as a lamer when:
1: They ask others to break into email accounts, or deface websites for them.
2: They talk about sub7 or Back Oriface.
3: They ask alot of questions, but arent willing to read articles,books, or investigate on their own.
4: They ask others to do any illegal activity for any reason.
That pretty much describes lamers and script kiddies.
Here is a definition of a lamer, script kiddie, and newbie/neophyte(by ennis in her tutorial) from http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=218093
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Newbies/Neophythes
Newbies are only well new to hacking, they are striving to learn and it is at this stage they decide what path they will take. A newbie could become anything if not taught early the code of the hacker. The usually go through a process of learning from their mistakes.
Neophythes are newbies who are beginning to show some knowledge and are contributing to the hacker society. Many hackers remain at this stage and few move on the 'uberhacker' status.
Lamers
Lamers are the people that just wont learn, they are not interested in real hacking instead looking for easy ways to impress their freinds etc. Everything they do is accomplished without any innovative ideas, just basic copying of old exploits, tools etc.
Script Kiddies
*Ennis cringes* Yes we all them, the bottom of the hacker culture is fulll of wannabes, these malicious kids are lamers with enough knowledge to lets say, deface a site or execute DoS attacks, creat simple virii etc. They are the people that give hackers a bad name.
So, as I have mentioned, newbies want to learn. They are not like lamers and script kiddies. They are way ahead of them. And lamers and script kiddies are not as bad as a newbie. Newbies are way better. Newbies don't use tools, they don't touch DoS or virii(unless they are learning about programming with virii). Although, some people will start out as a script kiddie, but they usually don't have bad intent, just trying to figure out hacking, or they start by learning trojans. Newbies are striving for knowledge. So, newbies aren't script kiddies, lamers or computer illiterate.
Thanks for you time~
