This one's ugly:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...enters-ra.html
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This one's ugly:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...enters-ra.html
Very hard to map out this situation. Maybe it has something to do with the Conflicker worm spreading around. Or, maybe, the FBI is on to something and the victim is claiming ignorance. Maybe there is a thriving "underground" city living on those server domains. At least they posted a .pdf file which may contain the answer why.Quote:
Originally Posted by brokencrow
The investigators affidavit reads like a novel. Very entertaining.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/fil..._affidavit.pdf
After reading this, it is easy to understand the rationale for seizing ALL the equipment.
One moral to the story is to make sure you know who you are sharing rack/cage space with.
All I can say is that is one organized patch panel... Or it was anyway...
Yeah, but look at it now. :confused:
Hey CSR....that looks familiar
Wow Linen0ise....I like thet analogy.. "underground city"
MLF
Atlanta is like that. It's the only major city I've seen that has a subway system through their airport. And the subways in itself is like walking into a mall.
The affidavit's a great read. I've only been thru it once so far. Typically, that stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Cheap Scotch Ron
needs to be read two or three times to find any inconsistencies.
What I find startling is the general lack of clarity in computer law(s). It's clear there's
a fraud case here, but these agents went in with a blunt sword. Where is the due
process in this case for the 300-odd companies directly affected by the raid? I've
got to wonder what kind of litigation comes of this case. Law enforcement's so far
behind the curve.
I don't know how you determine who you're sharing rack space with. The real moral
of this story is: backup, backup, then backup some more.
Would server downtime due to an FBI raid count as a natural disaster? From the
sounds of the agents involved, you'd think it was an Act Of God. ;)
That's just it though. Am I the only one who realises that it didn't stop at just a rack and a few computers!? These people carried away anything with buttons or cords.Quote:
What I find startling is the general lack of clarity in computer law(s). It's clear there's
a fraud case here, but these agents went in with a blunt sword. Where is the due
process in this case for the 300-odd companies directly affected by the raid? I've
got to wonder what kind of litigation comes of this case. Law enforcement's so far
behind the curve.
You're on the money there. If you read the affidavit you will see that there is a relationship between Faulkner and Simpson.Quote:
Or, maybe, the FBI is on to something and the victim is claiming ignorance. Maybe there is a thriving "underground" city living on those server domains. At least they posted a .pdf file which may contain the answer why.
Bad luck for co-locating at a site run by dodgy characters. OK the kit may be owned by innocent parties but when the people managing it come under suspicion for serious fraud, then everything is fair game.
Not to mention $2.5M in your private account when your outfit has a gross revenue of $460,000 a year? ;)
Yeah, as it is a fraud investigation all they should have been interested in is stuff that holds data?Quote:
That's just it though. Am I the only one who realises that it didn't stop at just a rack and a few computers!? These people carried away anything with buttons or cords.
Mind you, why didn't the data centre have offsite backups?..........not a very good business continuity/disaster recovery model IMO.
EDIT:
More court documents on this link:
http://securityfocus.tv/dallascolo/