Originally Posted by
gore
Remember that the next time I'm arguing with someone on here how just because Windows XP CAN be Secure, doesn't mean it IS out of the box. Not that a lot are, out of the box, but I do recall being flamed on here a few times when I was always going on about SUSE Linux, because, well, when you installed that, before it actually had even booted up for the first time, while you were still finishing up the installation, it allowed you to do a full update before it even got to a desktop, or even a log in screen for that matter.
SUSE had this back in like 8.1 or 8.2 Professional, and so once you had gotten the install going, after you set up the Network connection part of it, you could have it test your connection to see if it wa connected, and then, it asked it you'd like to install updates, and you'd select yes, and it would actually show you the updates that were out since the OS had been packaged, you could then install them, and have a fully updated machine by the time you got to the log in.
I know a few people here who were huge Windows people, who would go on and on that "Ohhhhh Windows NT, 2000 and XP can be just as secure as Linux"...
OK, fine, if you manage to get to a desktop (Which by the way, Windows loads things in a different way than Linux, BSD, and other OSs, it loads the Program's Interface before it actually finishes loading the actual application, so that way it appears on screen BEFORE it's actually ready to use) so, if you could get to the log in, which by default logged you in as admin, no password, and then, click on Windows update fast enough to start patching, and then, reboot 50 times for all those updates that ALL require an update, and then of course, have the time to move your mouse fast enough to select Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player by themselves because for some reason you can't install updates for those with ANYTHING else selected, and they need reboots too, and THEN go back and see that now, there are even MORE patches, and get those installed, reboot, and see THOSE patches need patches, and so on, ALL within the time to get the damn thing to load a Desktop that won't be infected, then awesome! LOL!