I was just wondering what kind of hacker you classify yourself as, black hat, white hat, grey hat, uber...etc?
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I was just wondering what kind of hacker you classify yourself as, black hat, white hat, grey hat, uber...etc?
RedHat [Linux 5.2]
Well, thats what I "hack" most... even though I don't have RHLinux installed on anything at the moment.
I dunno. I ain't much of a hacker but I suppose I could be one of these kinds? http://www.geekculture.com/geekcultu...tore/caps.html
=)
I'm still working on my programming and such and there is always something new to learn. We're all a newbie in some shape or form.
MsMittens that is a funny link. I didn't even know any vendor sold geek wear(knowingly anyway).
http://www.thinkgeek.com
they also have some cool 'gear'
If I had to be classified, it would be as a "I hack so poorly that I would go to jail for something stupid" Hacker. I cant hack. However I have a great interest in computer programming, networking, and peripherals. I currently have an Associate Degree with a major in Computer Information Systems, and am working on my Bachelors. The teachers never taught us anything on how to hack, although we were able to easily create programs that could completely screw up a system in my advanced Visual Basic class.
I am a fledgling *nix hacker (6 years in the making). I don't use the term `hacker' to describe the act of testing/abusing security issues. It has a long tradition of meaning `enlightened code fu skill' in the Unix world and even before that. In fact the term was first used in an issue of Popular Electronics ages before Unix to describe some engineers who had managed to shrink the components of their super computer by half every year while boosting computing power and lowering electrcity usage.
MIT was using that term back in the 50's to describe their most gifted researchers. Linus Trovalds is revered as a Hacker because he essentially took the most difficult path to enlightenment, the re-write of a Unix like OS from scratch.
I am not busting on you for using it that way, I am just saying that it is not the way I use it.
By the way my hat is blue and has an Intel logo spoof that says 'Open Source Inside' :D
What type of hacker am I? I am a learner.
HahAHhaHahA!!! (Let's hope he doesn't find out that it is prison and he may go for life!)Quote:
If I had to be classified, it would be as a "I hack so poorly that I would go to jail for something stupid" Hacker. -ThePreacher
10001101,
First i would class myself as more of a computer defender more than an attacker. So that would probably be white hat, in fact the last actual hacking i did was ages ago into a system that i was actually asked to test :D .Quote:
Originally posted by SolidPez
I was just wondering what kind of hacker you classify yourself as, black hat, white hat, grey hat, uber...etc?
However i would like to amiably disagree with UberC0der's interpretation of a hacker, i would class it as most security people now do, a person skilled enough to break into a computer, and wise enough to leave it alone or tell the admin. But then again thats just my personal preference.
I would have to class myself as a Phacker, yep you guess it a programmer. But not a skript Kidde, I understand the way of the force and don'nt need little programs to do it for me.
I consider myself none.
I would not be considered a true hacker.
I'm obviously not a cracker or I wouldnt be here.
Im not a script kiddie or Im pretty sure if I was here I'd be causing trouble.
Im not swift enough to be considered a grey hat, evil enough to be a black hat and Im not uber or I would be working on my own OS or some other worthy cause.
So what am I, just normal I suppose.
white hat.
usually.
Im still lookin for a hat that fits
When I started using computers it was not called hacking. It was just getting the main frame to do what you needed done. I dont see how all the colors apply, if just want to learn and teach thats hacking. If you want to cause damage you are a vandal and need to to be punished. If you do both see a head doc. Now days I get into servers over thier web pages that is just plain stupid if sysops ie admins can not protect simple things like web pages on IIS they need to be in house keeping! It was to easy to get into my bank and place of employment I sent a letter to both and guess what I can still get in and do any thing I want. I use Linux at home but the wife still likes Windows and aol so you live with what you have. I guess I am a clear hat I use what I need too. And if I get hacked well more power to them.
OK, in zilto's name we declare a new class of hacker-breed, clear hats!:D :confused:
I suppose that my argument *could* be compared to the word `gay'. It doesn't, or didn't used to mean what almost everyone uses it for now.
With the knowledge that the term meant extreme technical skill in electronics and computer science for about 40 years before it meant a security minded person good or bad. /*hacker was actually a reporter mis-phrase, afaik */.
I do recognize the term hacker to mean both good and bad security people. And if you consider yourself a `good, or white hat hacker' then I am very proud to know you.
I do have a spare room loaded up with assorted computers and OS's that I *test* security on. My little home network has evolved from a single puter booting multiple OS's to a complex network behind an ever evolving firewall. I implement all the security patches for the software and OS's on that network, then I attempt to break in to those systems from another system outside the firewall over the internet. What I am interested in here is not the exploits, but rather the design /*code */ flaws that make them possible. Logical errors, incorrect data structures, math mistakes and all that loveliness that make up the security problem.
I would like someday to be known as a hacker by a group of people whom I respect. But not for any security ability reasons, rather the older, far more elusive, and maddening attainment of Unix wizardry. a la http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=126923 , which is a clever post from 1986, sorry about the author, it has long since been lost in the mess known as the net.
For the current definition of `hacker' via the New hacker Dictionary hacker n
Anyway, I don't think less of anyone for calling themselves a hacker as a result of an acute knowledge of computer security. One person I personally know that falls into this category for me is our Uber InfoSec guy at the company I work for as a SW/Eng. He knows crap that people shouldn't and has a large number of the RFC's just about memorized. Kind of scary to tell you the truth. His hat is grey if anyone is interested, everyone who has left themselves su'd in knows just how EviL he can be.
Its great fun just to see what others are doing
I can show you what others do with thier systems and how to help them get them to do better with security on thier systems.
Someone please define all the different classifications of hackerQuote:
Originally posted by SolidPez
I was just wondering what kind of hacker you classify yourself as, black hat, white hat, grey hat, uber...etc?
such as the ones quoted above
all the way down to script kiddie..
thanx:p
Okay, I'm a newbie, and I know the difference between White, Black, and Gray hat hackers. Could someone please tell me what an Uberhacker is?
Come on, guys. I'm a newbie - don't flame me too much...:firedevil
Thanks in advance,
K-Line
i'm a neophyte, (it just sounds so much better than newbie), i only really got into programming/security about 6 months ago, so i don't hack into remote networks or anything, but i do impress my friends with little things
I am not a hacker, phreaker, cracker, or tagger-
I'm what most would call a Computer Forensics Specialist.
My hat color of choice is red, white and blue...
Semper Fi!
:drink: :3pow:
Im sorry officer, I am a honest, law-abiding citizen.Quote:
Originally posted by seatac
I am not a hacker, phreaker, cracker, or tagger-
I'm what most would call a Computer Forensics Specialist.
My hat color of choice is red, white and blue...
somewhere i heard it said that hacking was knowing a system, any system, well enough to make it work for you. no hat needed for that
I refer to myself as a <If-You-Piss-Me-Off-I-Can-Hurt-You> Hat...
not that I actually would hurt someone.. I mean, its quite counterproductive.... I mean, all its gonna do is piss the person off...
I think that tranlates to an offwhite hat.... maybe stucco.. or mother of pearl... :D
I'm more of a target.
I suppose a Uberhacker is a respected hacker who has great knowledge in the hacking field.Quote:
Originally posted by K-Line
Okay, I'm a newbie, and I know the difference between White, Black, and Gray hat hackers. Could someone please tell me what an Uberhacker is?
Come on, guys. I'm a newbie - don't flame me too much...:firedevil
Thanks in advance,
K-Line
All hackers I think should aspire to becoming an ethical Uberhacker.
I aint got much info on these guys but Im sure someone will have more info.
me newbie trying to learn
I don't wear a hat. I can protect myself somewhat and can go on the offensive a bit, but never need too. :)
I don't consider myself a hacker.
I only learn how to do stuff and troubleshoot problems. I have only hacked one computer before, but I knew the people who ran it. :)
still newbie still trying to learn
trying to learn something here : http://www.hackerslab.org/
but cant het past lvl 0 :(
pritty stupid issnt it?
<Look>Quote:
Originally posted by seatac
I am not a hacker, phreaker, cracker, or tagger-
I'm what most would call a Computer Forensics Specialist.
My hat color of choice is red, white and blue...
Semper Fi!
:drink: :3pow:
:fu: You suck.
DAMN HACKERS!!
Hacking is bad mmmmmkay....
I guess I would have to be ex-grey, now pretty white =D
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Was fuer 'ne Hut?
\Tom Wethers/
That is funny! ;) Not that you are targeted, but just the comment. :p There are so many funny people here!Quote:
I'm more of a target. - bquine
01100101,
U think im funny?Quote:
Originally posted by DISLEX
That is funny! ;) Not that you are targeted, but just the comment. :p There are so many funny people here!
01100101,
i have to say that i prefer not to use the term hacker when describing my abilities.... words like that, heard by the wrong people, can get you in trouble... hehe
One time I signed on AOL and hit the keys really fast and suddenly a screen popped up and said "OMG YOU HACKED THE GIBSON YOU ARE ELEET" so I decided I should get proof and copied the garbage file and then my mom came in and turned my computer off :mad: - Every now and then I try hitting they keys really fast like this aipfh apoig ha;lj zhvlgh ap[g h;lvknr ght08qut981yr=q rufqrj'fpajhg ajg; lkajg z
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but see? It didn't do anything, maybe if I hit ctrl and shft and some other random keys it'll work again.
Oh well. :D
You know.. One time i signed onto prodigy....
And i Did something very similar as adroitox.
I hit a buncha keys just like this,,.,
hbasldhsajk rfhuweqi;fsdjfhsudkflsdkjfyh hj3l45r237i6fbsjadmlfsai6yfs7da8fmnasdbfajml sdafkuw6784il h u hsekajf;aes98r73ioulrjfhay84orkjsadhfiukasdlcnh8w3qormsnb
I spun around three times then clicked my heals... Guess what....
Blue screen of death.. Yep.. Crashed windows..
Deleted MS money.. (Didnt use it but anytime a person deletes a microsoft product its a decade of bad luck)
anyone know how to reverse this wizardry?
Lost and confused hacker..
Things which I have somehow caused to fail or crash and I don't know how, or maybe just came across them at a bad time:
Windows (no credit here.)
38-channel walkie-talkies.
A neat car GPS system.
A gasoline pump display.
Several other items which were hilarious at the time, but I forget.
I think that says something. Sometimes people ask me to come over and fix some windows problem, and when I try it, it doesn't happen. Maybe I just have a magnetic personality.
As for technical skill, I think my sig says it all. Proficient. Adequate. Competent. Acceptable. Being 'ok' puts you above a scientifically-proven 96.5%* of the internet, you know!
* These statistics were a the average of an opinion poll of random people with the name 'Terr'.
Terr.. That just sounds like REALLY bad luck.. to the point of dangerous.. hah