doodz

We have talked to you in pm and that didn' t help so I am just going to front you off right here.

STOP THE BULLSHIT. You keep accusing debwalin and I of having an aliance with other people. You know its ****ing bullshit or else you would have been banned by now. And wtf do we need help getting antipoints for, we are both on the top10 list. WTF, why the hell would we want or need an aliance. You are a little pee on that needs to get a ****ing life and stop watching your antipoints. Instead of sitting at home and hoping to get more antipoints, get out and get a ****ing life.

You remind me of Dark_Raider and JChosting, and I would bet you probably are one of them (although I still think they were both the same person... if they were not, they shared accounts).

1> You basically admited to deb that you had a "group" and it was one of your group that did the Intmon thing. Well, I saw the conversation between you and that person where you tried to recruit him into your aliance, and he told you hell no. Maybe he will be nice enough to post that conversation if you don't believe me.

2> You are into account sharing. You already talked to at least 1 person that I know of about borrowing his account. Maybe he will post that conversation. How ****ing stupid are you. What a ****ing waste of time. Get out and get a damn life.

I don't give a **** normally what goes on at this site, it doesn't bother me.. But when you are attacking me and Deb and talking **** to other people, that annoys the **** out of me. And guess what... we don't have a ****ing aliance. But we do have friends. We don't go arround giveing eachother green points for stupid ****, or red points to people we don't like... thats a ****ing waste of time. But they DO tell us when you are talking **** and trying to mess with us for some reason. And its gone on long enough. Get a ****ing life, please.

ok lets hear d00dz side of the story .... doodz you are on ;)

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d00dz Attackin []
AntiOnline Senior Member


Location: Central Time Stream
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 405
Status: online!




Mood: excited
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Why do you hate me?
No, really why did you Negative me? I work hard for my greenies, please why? If you have negged me then you have to neg everyone. Who you really hate me? Because "souleman" hates me. Really come on . It was my group that did it. The_Jinx knows who it was too, negative, etc. I was just showing that I was there for my friends. I think maybe you like to size members. I love my greenies and your just pushing alittle button to mess up my day . Please!



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" In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women."
--ScarFace--

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I don't hate you, that would require effort and time on my part, and I already waste too much of that reading your idiotic posts. I have refrained from giving you negative AP's on many occasions, but this was just too much, after the equally stupid post you made last night about not making anymore stupid posts. My giving you negs had nothing to do with intmon or anyone else, it was strictly based on the continuing string of really bad posts you make.

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I just would like to say, I started this with a stupid PM (To Debwalin: saying Why are you mean to me, etc) which I was selfish to jump on a member like that. Really all I wanna do is be friends with Deb, souleman, rioter, etc. But all I was doing was making it worst. I am very very very sorry to who ever dislikes me. What happens is that am a kid that can't show how I feel when I type, the only thing I can do is stop talking! Deb has told me over and over to stop talking to her, but all I want to do is be friends. Am like a little kid that his no fighting power, but has to much feelings. All I want to do is feel wanted. Like right now I feel like jumping off a cliff. All I can really do is unplug my computer, because all I do is start stuff that I didn't mean to start.

With Jack I was only playing with him because the way he talks to me a jokin kind of guy. I came to Jack for help in IRC. I even told jack over and over that I was playing around.

With V_Ln I asked him if he was in an alliance. He said hell no. Why I asked him that is because he was talking about it in IRC with everyone. But I misunderstood him. So that is why I asked.

The names I have never heard in my life.

All I can say is sorry souleman, Deb, etc for started this mini-war. All I wanted was to be friends with you all. Because friends is all I got in life....... I really wish this was a dream. I felt at home when I came here, like I have never been since I was 3........... No matter what you guys/ladys do I will still try to be your friends. Someone to talk to.

God Bless!! Take care!! And Cya!

Accusing people repeatedly to people that they are friends with of being in an alliance is not a very good way to go about making friends. Because rioter and I both negged you in the same week and then you saw us talking in IRC does not make an alliance. It means that rioter and I are friends who both decided (on our own, believe it or not) to neg you.

Also, I have seen the conversation between you and v_Ln, he keeps logs. :) Didn't really sound like what you're describing. You are the one talking about belonging to a "group". Would you like to explain to us what you meant by that?

And please drop the "Deb was mean to me" crap. I told you to get off my ass in IRC because I had explained to you, both in the comment area of your neg, and in my response to your PM why I negged you. I have no obligation to speak to you anywhere, and especially not in IRC when I am talking to friends, and you continue to bitch about "only being 50 points away" from your next green box and I screwed that up for you. BTW, I still have that PM too, if you'd like for me to post it as well.

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I have refrained from giving you negative AP's on many occasions, but this was just too much, after the equally stupid post you made last night about not making anymore stupid posts. My giving you negs had nothing to do with intmon or anyone else, it was strictly based on the continuing string of really bad posts you make

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Yes, I did say that. do you need more clarification as to why I gave you negs? Really, that wasn't plain enough?

I'd still really like to hear an explanation of your "group"

Debwalin,

I was just saying sorry up there. Am here making a effort, to be your friend. Other people will just be like "F this" or "Whatever," Like what I said I tend to type bad which people misunderstand me. Maybe that day I was tired and didn't know what I was writing. I never want to be in a alliance i will get banned. Is there anyway you can get V_Ln logs on here. See i didn't know anything about alliance till i talked to V_Ln, I didn't know they watch when you neg/pos someone, i didn't know you can get banned for being in a alliance. Debwalin, AM SORRY!

Bye

Okay, I just have one question. Who really gives a **** about "alliances"? I mean really. Anybody who cares about alliances must give a **** about their own AP's in the first place. Its not like AP's mean anything. I haven't really contributed anything concerning security since I been here and I have a little less than hundred (I think) The only useful reason for AP's are to ban the idiots. To all of you who give a **** about greenies, go ahead. Form alliances, give pos's to each other. It doesn't affect me or anyone else here. This is the same ****ing **** we all went through in High School. ****ing popularity. You could neg this ****ing account to hell today and I would not give ****. I will just get another. I do not care if everyone knows me by this account or another. So for ****'s sake. Drop all of the ****ing "alliance" threads and keep **** like this to yourselves. D00dz, just let it go. Their are several thousands members here. If they don't want to talk to you then, ****'em. Deb & Soule, ignore him. Simply as that.


hjack

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Like right now I feel like jumping off a cliff.

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/me gives doodz a helping hand

What are "friends" for..... :D

I have been talkin to d00dz well since he registered...he never asked me or gave me Anti Points because we talk and are very good friends ..... he also never did ask me to be part of a group or alliance of people that neg other users and give positive points to each other..... and i dont think that he is a part of a alliance ....i am not saying that deb or souleman are wrong ....maybe they just missunderstood d00d like i sometimes do when we talk .....so if we could see log files or conversations it would clear things very much up ....

Get rid of the AP system and the problem gets solved... no more stupid ass group neggings and no more pathetic whining...

I expected more from seniors... :(

No I don't think there is a problem with the system, in general it does what it's supposed to do. Some people do take it out of hand. But this matter just sounds like it needed to be brought out so there could someone else could be a moderator or have a few of us just kind of sit and help them talk it out.

Sounds like there are a lot of issues to fix up. The question is can we all be adults here and come to some sort of understanding (whatever it might be)?

Just a thought...
~AciD

Ask and thy shall receive >>

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Session Start: Mon Jul 14 05:36:57 2003
Session Ident: d00dz
[05:36] Session Ident: d00dz ([email protected])
[05:36] <d00dz> Where do I sigh? lol
[05:37] <d00dz> sign*
[05:40] <d00dz> Hey you there?
[05:41] <v_Ln|site> heh
[05:41] <v_Ln|site> same my name
[05:41] <v_Ln|site> turns on the highlight
[05:41] <v_Ln|site> lol
[05:42] <v_Ln|site> d00dz
[05:43] <d00dz> Lol!
[05:43] <v_Ln|site> is set to react to my name
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> if you want me to type v_Ln or whatever name is and will beep and flash
[05:44] <d00dz> So are you going to start this?
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> lol
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> an alliance?
[05:44] <d00dz> Yeah
[05:44] <d00dz> lol
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> not a chance
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> no way
[05:44] <d00dz> Why not?
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> i stayed well clear of that mess last time
[05:44] <v_Ln|site> def not gettin in to it ever
[05:45] <v_Ln|site> search for ac1dsp3ctrum
[05:45] <v_Ln|site> he was in the last alliance along with a bunch of other senior members
[05:45] <v_Ln|site> all banned
[05:45] <d00dz> Ooh crap
[05:45] <d00dz> How can they tell
[05:45] <v_Ln|site> its called abuse of the ap system
[05:45] <v_Ln|site> every ap you send is recorded
[05:46] <v_Ln|site> even before they changed it so you could see persons name
[05:46] <v_Ln|site> some peps complained about some assignments to JP
[05:46] <v_Ln|site> he had a look at records
[05:46] <d00dz> But look at the fiend neg me for no reason
[05:46] <v_Ln|site> saw a pattern between certain members
[05:46] <v_Ln|site> so banned
[05:46] <v_Ln|site> then report it
[05:47] <d00dz> To who?
[05:47] <v_Ln|site> i can't gaurantee JUP will give a ****
[05:47] <v_Ln|site> but JP took it very seriously
[05:47] <d00dz> What are they going to do bost me back up :)
[05:47] <d00dz> boost*
[05:47] <v_Ln|site> some of the peps who lost alot of aps due to the last alliance had them returned
[05:47] <d00dz> Damn
[05:47] <v_Ln|site> but prolly more likly just ban the offender

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ok thats a bit of a log between myself and d00dz in PM on Irc (will attach full thing if anyone can be arsed reading it - lol)
As for me talking about an alliance in IRC am afradi I dont log the main room (file would be huge) so you have only my word to go by but I would like to clear up that my talking about it was something along lines of -- people asking for pos ap's, me replying with
<v_Ln>Ummm yeah why dont we start an alliance??
<v_Ln> -_-

I must draw attention to the lil face at the end - for those not familiar with it is used to show that you are unimpressed by something...I do see how this may have been taken in the wrong way and hope that clears it up.

However what has prompted me to reply is not to cause anymore hassle but to simply clear my name - as shown above it has been claimed that I am in a group which I would now like to say is a load of BS - anyone who knows me knows

1. I dont care enough about AP's to be assed
2. I would be a **** group member to have as I very rarely give ap's - as am now off the opinion that due to the substancial amount that is given my members of a high rank withy every hit you either have to have done something to really contribute or been really dumb

I dont care about alliances, I dont care about ap's....what pissed me off is having someone belittle what I have achieved on this site (heh all top10 lists w00t :D lol) through implying my association with such childish and immature groups

v_Ln

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Jaguar I know what your sayng but am glad that Debs & soule brought this up - I appriciate the fact they have stuck up for me in this way as personnaly I was going to bother saying anything but now that it has been brought into the open am glad they did - thanks ;)
but please Jaguar dont tar us all with the same brush......

edit >> log added

*stands there stunned*

All I have to say is this does not sound like it is going to be good for doodz... you now have a LOT of explaining to do to the entire AO community! This is uncalled for talk...

~AciDriveHB

d00dz attackin looks like you have to get help for you're AntiPoint fetish !

I think d00dz has learned yet another good lesson..

I do remember ac1dsp3ctrum.. hell I gave him serverspace for a site wich I later removerd for copyright violations. (he had copied some of Neg's AO index)

If d00dz needs therapy for AntiPoint addiction, I think unerror irc is a good place to start..

d00dz and I had a little chat earlier and I warned him about this kind of things..
I also told him I thought his "mood" (see debs post) was "unethical" and dead wrong..

As I told some of you before:
I have never been in any aliances/groups and don't have any interest of becoming part of one..
I have earned my points the slow way by helping out people and sometimes posting funny and controversial stuff..

I wish d00dz all the strength he needs to kick back his 'green' addiction..

That's what we need, an "AntiPoint Addiction" Support group, host it on IRC on certain nights and certain times. Have everyone talk about their problems with their addiction. Maybe even help them out in the long one with keeping away with being addicted to other stuff.

It's funny if you step back and think about why people would be addicted to getting the greens. Then again you think back to high school and how there are the kids that always try to fit in and go to great lengths. This kind of sounds like that, just back fired.

Though greens here will not earn you respect. Only the posts you make with the content they have will earn you the true respect among the members (at least senior wise).

Just a thought...
~AciD

Another thing people have to stop is taking one thing and calling it something else... its not crime, its poverty... its not AP abuse, its an AP addiction.... JupMan or Intmon... get your asses over here and start banning these people... they don't deserve to be here...

valhallen, thanks for posting that log... it cleared a lot up for me... and believe me... I have the upmost respect for some people here but others... :(

Am going to come straight out with this,

What I said to V_Ln that day was just stupid!!! Something so little is not worth getting impatient with (All I need is 50 more, all I had to do is wait it out, but I became impatient, which makes me look like a stupid a$$hole). I do earn my AP its just this time I got very impatient and wanted my next greenie so bad so I asked him. I get so caught up in this and I don't remember what am here for. I think of it as a game (I don't know why) I try to forget about it, but I can't. Its like DII to me, gain levels (AP's) and become stronger. Once I get to 11 greenies It will be easy for me to forget about it. To get to that all I have to do is help people and that is what I am going to do. When I read the convo I see myself just talking about AP's, am going to stop that after seeing what a mess I made, here. Sorry V_Ln for being a stupid kid just talking about STUPID AP's. I wish this can stop before everyone in AO hates me and I have to leave here.

Thankyou!! Take care and Cya!

I'll ask my alliance to make sure you have your 11 greenies by tomorrow so it'll be easy for you to forget about it.

No Negative.

I have to earn my points like everyone else. /Me starts too think maybe Negative is going to banned me. Starts to cry!!! :D.

Take care, Cya

Hey doodz, no offence but you should seriously seek some mental help. I mean come on, these do nothing for you in real life. Hell, they dont do anything out side of this site.

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I'll ask my alliance to make sure you have your 11 greenies by tomorrow so it'll be easy for you to forget about it.

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Oh generous one, meet with your alliance, discuss what has to be done with the greenies that have been rejected. Possibly distribute them amongst the poor. Help us forget.

Oh Lord....not the AP alliance crap again. I hate to quote Rodney, but "Can't we all just get along?"

Here, I think I still have a few to spare.

See Allen the problem with the Rodney is he said that after he got his butt beat, and after he got his money.

I have to take doodz side a little AO's are addictive they at times make you think.
Just a view on how people could see it.
I like the system because at times you will search for stuff to answer a question to get points which in turn helps you and the person that you are helping.

Let's take this from another view, most people want to be welcomed and loved they want to feel like everyone likes them. I.E. Why people become addicted to points the more you get the more people tend to pay attention to what you say. I personally believe that what you post is more important, if you have 11 greenies and you are a ****ing idiot I am not goingt to have anymore respect for you then if you were a Noob. To be honest probably least because of the amount of points that you have should say that you know somewhat, what your talking about.

The system I think is fine but, it is a pain at times. The same thing that helps you hurts you funny a double-edged sword.

Another way to think about it is, your in the military while your in you want all the rank you can get the more strips you get the more power you have, the cooler you are. When you get out the fact that you retired as a Captain or Private doesn't matter.

Whizkid2300

Oh by the way doodz if you need help I can always treat you I have taken psychology but I kinda fell asleep in the class. I passed with an A, B, B. Three years of the best sleep I ever had. LOL

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Here, I think I still have a few to spare.

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Thank you, O wise one, your name will be revered across the land, this tale of kindness will be retold for generations to come

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I like the system because at times you will search for stuff to answer a question to get points

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No, WRONG logic here.

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which in turn helps you and the person that you are helping.

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Now we are getting closer. See you should take those two thoughts and reverse them. IT should sound more like this:

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I like the system because at times you will search for stuff to answer a question which helps you and the person that you are helping. Plus sometimes for all the trouble you will get some greenies which is always a bonus

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The idea of AO is to share information, to help one another... and maybe even to prove to yourself that you know more than what you might thing. The AP system is here basically to ban the retards that come here looking for hacks and cracks... not some game.

Personally doodz you sound like you are about 15 years old trying to fit in with the cooler high school seniors or something. I'm not trying to cut you down, but step back and look at the whole picture and what you said and are saying in defense. Hopefully you have learned and will grow up, nothing more needs to be said I think than that. No excuses explaining why you tried, or even you telling us that you were stupid and an ******* in doing it.

It's only for the fact that it's like you basically tried to stab me in the back. No I could care less if you made an alliance, hell I could care less if your "group" banned me from AO because of what I am saying now (just making a point). But it's just the fact of the matter. I don't care what you say after the fact, you more or less would have to prove yourself now for me to believe that is true. It would be just the same thing if you made out with my girlfriend (saying I had one) and said it was only because you were drunk and didn't know what you were doing. I would think you did, you just were on a "high" from "something else". Seeing my point?

I am here to share information, and to chat with my AO mates. If I get points yeah I think it's cool, but as long as I help out and can do good here that's the real high... I don't even care about getting 11 green dots by my name (which I take it is the max or something even?). I hope my posts speak for themself and to me that's that. Exactly how I take you.

Sorry if I am drifting on and off topic, or not making sense. Figured I would make a few posts at 1:15AM my local time before off to bed. I think I'm getting myself across. I'm just basically saying this for anyone out there who is an AP Addict and reads this thread. I think it just needs to be said for the coming users.

As always, just a thought...
~AciD

Ok, I have said my doings. "AciDriveHB" have you ever made a mistake? No, I am not in an alliance, ask intmon, whoever, I am telling you I am not in one. As said up there. I have made a mistake, I was impatient and wanted my next greenie. I have learned, the hard way. Please stop rubbing it in by saying "in my opinion I think your 15 years old" your off. Would you think if I was in a alliance I would have had 11 greenies when I had like 100 posts, true or not? Also I got 20 more points before being banned, 'till I came out with that tut, that shot me past red, gray, etc. All my points where earned by my tut's! Maybe I got pos have writing something useful, etc. True or not?
Cya

Just curious you keep saying you're a kid what age are you ?. And why did you and you're 'group' spam the board with the Intmon acount ? there must be a 'reasonable' explanation or at least an explanation if you like it that much here you would think that you would try and get rid of 'trouble' users like the Intmon acount you and you're 'group' made and 'spammed' the board with. And to acuse people of being in an aliance is just stupid the tables could be easy turned to point at you from what i can tell most of you're posts are in tech humour saying **** like "nice one" and "keep them comming" yet you have 9 greens do you see my point ?. And just out of more curiosity who is in this so called 'group' ?

*sits tapping his foot waiting for a reply

*shakes his head* :rolleyes:

I really wanted to stay out of this but I just cant!! I'd like to just say respect to everyone for at least trying to sort this out in a reasonable manner.

My suggestions is to Doodz, If you are really legitimately sorry about all this NEVER EVER use your Doodz Attackin account again. Get a new one start from the beggining and choose the path of the righteous man.

Alternatively keep your Doodz account and have people mumbling about you in darkened corners of AO forever (or at least a long time).

Hope this gets resolved quickly.

Cheers
V$D$

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I'm not trying to rub anything in doodz, you pretty much did it yourself. You're the one who keeps saying this and that as an excuse, I'm just simply saying that yes you did wrong, so stop talking about it and making excuses, just prove yourself. YOU did wrong, and if I was in your shoes and still trying to be here, I wouldn't keep bringing up the fact. I would just have learned what I did was wrong, moved on, and just posted what I needed to help others or to ask questions and left it at that. The more you talk, the more questions will be raised, and the more answers you will have to prove. I'm not trying to get your your back, I'm just telling it like I see it in my own opinion.

~AciD

[edit] that actually sounds like an idea. Start TOTALLY over and fresh and clean and then no one can complain about anything. [/edit]

doodz I think VicE$DoS$ has came up with a very good alternative.

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For someone who became a member in Mar2003 I figure you where doing pretty well, so I don't see what your urgency to get greens are, when truly the hold point of this site is not AP's you receive but the information you can provide to others.

Like AciD said AP's are just a bonus

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Plus sometimes for all the trouble you will get some greenies which is always a bonus

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You know my greatest fear when I came here? It was and still is getting banned. You know why? I love this site, I love to contribute and most of all I love the information I gather from here. I don't love greens, in fact I just need one and am contented since I will be able to post tomorrow and the day after. That's all I really want, to post and read.

So doodz think about the hold situation and understand what this community is all about and maybe then you can forget about the AP's and have some real fun.

Guidance...

I have been trying to let this go. Trust me.
Am not a quieter and can't give up an account, just like that. If I stick this out, and come out ahead, do you think members will like me more? Come out with great stuff to enlighten there and your day. I can now see and has forgot about the AP's. I just asked one person and look what happens. Truly I am sorry for all this, and please forgive me. :D.

Thankyou, Cya
--D00dz--

Hey people, I know I have nothing to do with this but come on; just forgive d00dz attackin, we all do things we regret later. If you were d00dz you would probably want to be appreciated again. Heck, that's what I think about it.

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If I stick this out, and come out ahead, do you think members will like me more?

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Personally if you want to this to be a dead matter and to go away fully, I think starting a new account is the only way. Because then you will prove you're not out for the points, because you're not keeping this account which already have a ton of (¿questionable?) points. I think you would earn a lot more respect from a lot of the members that way too, because it would be showing us that you are truly here for the information, not the points.

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Am not a quieter and can't give up an account, just like that.

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Why is that, because you're not a quiter? Quitting has nothing to do with making a new account. Quitting would be if you left AO and never came back because you couldn't face us.

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Truly I am sorry for all this, and please forgive me.

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Well forgiveness is the easy part, it's the trust you have to earn back. We can forgive and forget in a sense, but it will take time to earn the trust. And no matter how much you say you are sorry won't fix that. I'm not saying that in a mean way, or to be a jerk... but it's the truth. You have a lot against you, and we can forgive you and not neg you to death. But we will watch you and it will take us time to SEE the true improvements. Understanding what I'm trying to say?

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Guidance...

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As cutty always ends his posts with, it's a good addition to all of this I think. We are trying to guide you right now, not stand here against you.

Just a thought...
~AciD

d00dz still no answer's to my questions :D. May i make a suggestion ? and it is just that but have you ever been to hackers.com ? its 'similar' to here but less ruthless and a n00b like your self would fit right in there and you may learn something instead of how to acuse people of **** and your AP addiction may settle a little I am not asking you to leave AO i am giving you alternative places where you could fit in and actually learn something and you wont be flamed at all there because its against there 'rules' oh-well take this post with a pinch of salt im just trying to give you other places to hang instead of being complete and utterly addicted to this web-site

peace

Hey d00dz, maybe you can help clear this up. I was just randomly look through trying to find a post. I ran across a thread in the Addicts forum talking about the Intmon problem AO had a few days ago. And well everyone can look for themselves, you're one post got a greenies... can you maybe share with us some of the reasoning from the people who gave those to you? Maybe I'm looking a little too deep into stuff... maybe I'm not? Sometimes even I need to be guided into the right direction, I wish you would do that for me d00dz!

Just wondering...
~AciD

d00dz we all have questions. You don't really need to answer any of our questions if you don't want to but it would be nice. Seeing that almost everything is out in the open why don't you just answer the questions you were asked to clear up the hold situation.

For instance 'prodikal' asked you quite a few questions some of which I am interested in to.

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Just curious you keep saying you're a kid what age are you ?. And why did you and you're 'group' spam the board with the Intmon acount ?... And just out of more curiosity who is in this so called 'group' ?

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And 'Acid' just pointed out another situation that some of us that don't have access to the addict forum couldn't see.

Am just curious but maybe with those questions answered I can analyze the entire situation and see where you are coming from. You get my point? This could all be a big misunderstanding but the rest of us and I not involved will never know until you start answering questions.

Guidance...

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Am not a quieter and can't give up an account, just like that. If I stick this out, and come out ahead, do you think members will like me more?

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Sorry, but I think the reason why you don't want to give up your current account is because you don't want to let go of your status as a Senior Member and your greenies.

Such a shame.