bad news for gamerz

THE-OMEN it's supposed to be "667, Naibour to the beast!"

I have book, which covers a exsperiment done after the second world war, quit simmilar to the one tyger_claw talked about....I'll post in when I find it....l8r :D

Noia thats already been done it's <pong>665 next door to the devil</pong> and thats what it is staying at.

It's sad how quickly people place a blame on something that is "obviously" incouraging violent behaviour. Bull F*n ****!

I'm guessing that family values of social classes, racism and sexism has nothing to do with it, eh?

boy: "Hey mom, can I go play with Timmy?"
mom: "What, that BLACK boy? You are to stay away from all those TYPES of people."

Thankfully, (No nock on Americans who are here), I don't see much of this in Canada, but I do live in the Northern part of Ontario.

Why look at computer games for responsibility? It is the social engineering of the parents and society that are around the certain individuals.....

Studies have shown that molested people will molest.. why? because they think it's normal.

However, don't get me wrong... There are *****ed up people in the world who need nothing to trigger them.

Speaking of Doom...one of the first PC games that I bought was DoomII...and a (very provincial) friend of mine asked me what the objective was. "To kill the alien hordes...(or something like that)", I said. He replied by saying, "Oh, they're aliens?...that's OK, then"

'Nuff said.

Ouroboros

(this friend of mine now plays MGS2 on the PS2 like there's no tomorrow...funny how people change, eh?)

I personally feel that these type of people will ruin the fun of Technologies for us all. Geezzz! Get a doctor! I know this shouldn't be waht I'm saying but I can imagine one day when the US government will take all computer games out of every home in DA USA. Well, I don't think they will cause then, their youger generation will eventually move to other neighboring countries like Canada. So............ no worries about computer games being taken out of every home.

I'll still waiting for DoomIII, which will feature a brand new 3D engine (unlike to old piece of crap for 486)

Yeah, if we go by library content, then I am a mad scientist hacker with connections to other planets.

Actually what do you expect to happen when parents are too busy with their own lives to take care of their 2.5 children? They sit them down in front of the TV set and ignore them, and then they wonder why little Johnny and Janie are sullen, unresponsive, and place no or little value on human life. The schools are WAR zones from the middle schools up through the high schools. I did some work at a junior high last week, and there is a permanent spot in the parking lot for the sherriff's deputy assigned to that school!

A very sad state of affairs, indeed. :(

****, now that's scary... fortunetaly... I have nothing like that to fear in Canada (yet!)
When will people learn? BE A PARENT!!!
(Although I am shouting, I know this won't get out to the people who need to hear it)

Hey Lawrence171, sorry to tell ya, but Id has no plan to make a Doom3. They finished that saga with "Final" Doom. The most recent thing you can find is the Doom Troopers in Quake III Arena

The interesting thing about these articles that you see popping up about the 'violent content' in the video game field is that the people writing them have no ****ing clue about anything they write about. To say that a game that involves killing people leads to the mental instability of life and death for a person is to say that Age of Empires 2: Conquerors (one of the best games I've played) is a bad thing? **** that, I learned more about history reading the manual and strategy guide for that game than I did in high school. I'd rather play violent video games and remind myself it's just a game rather than watch the news and see what crap's going on in other countries. When you watch the news, what do you see? Nothing but anger, violence, people hating/killing other people, etc etc... Never a good thing on the news, or at least not that I've seen. And these people writing articles about how bad it is are full of **** and I'll tell them that. Good parenting can prevent people from going off the deep end like that kid did in the Winchester Star. Playing games like Diablo II, Starcraft, and Age of Empires II didn't make him do what he did. Christ...can stupidity stop breeding?

This is one of the most rediculous things I've heard since they tried to link vid game violence with the Columbine shootings. This reminds me of my favorite issue of PcGamer (Game Gods). Basically, they grouped (I think 10) of what they felt were the best vid game developers in the country, stuck them in a room together, gave them some topics to talk about, and listened in. I remember (I think it was American McGee) talking about the Columbine shootings, and he said after that happened, he felt like not making vid games ever again, then half a year went by and he was back into it.....

So I read that article again and decided that now is the time to write someone about this. I found the contacts list for www.winchesterstar.com and emailed them the following:

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To whom it may concern,

My name is Todd Keller and I'm currently in central Florida, Tampa. I'm 26, work full-time as a unix administrator,
and for the record, did not go to college. I'm also one of the most hardcore gamers you'll ever meet. After following
a link on the security site (www.antionline.com) that I post on (I'm Vorlin on there), I decided that some response
was required as I feel this is yet another bad display towards gamers and gaming as a whole. The link I followed
was http://www.winchesterstar.com/thewin...ont_police.asp . Parenting is to blame for what
that kid did, not the games he's played. His lack of a self-esteem maybe is part to blame for what he did, not the
books he read. I myself found the London Dungeon in London, England to be fascinating and I guarantee you that's
a TON more violent-oriented than anything he read (for reference, the London Dungeon page can be found at
http://www.thedungeons.com/ and will show you more about medieval torture than you probably ever wanted to know).
Now, to break down the video games (all of which I played and beat), here's a brief history on each one.

1) Diablo 2: fictional real-time action game where you pick a profession (barbarian, sorceress, amazon, paladin, necromancer
and assassin, druid with the expansion pack) and go off to fight through four acts (fifth one in expansion) to destroy Diablo.
Anyone who finds this more realistic than life needs to be thrown in a padded room as you'll fight things that are as far
from anything real as you can get. Weaponry includes staves, swords, axes, daggers and other medieval type items.
Company that made this game: Blizzard

2) Warcraft 2: fictional real-time strategy game where you pick either the Orcs or the Humans and (in single-player) march
your way up the campaign to beat the game. Each level gets harder and harder with objectives such as "Keep so-and-so
alive" or "Get this amount of resources". Resources allow you to build more troops (archers, mages, warriors, etc) and
allow you to expand your kingdom. Once again, since orcs don't exist, anyone who thinks this realistic needs to join the
person who thought Diablo 2 was realistic.
Company that made this game: Blizzard

3) Starcraft: fictional real-time strategy game where you pick either Zerg, Terrans, or Protoss and basically do the same thing
that is mentioned above for Warcraft 2. One of the best and most popular games in the real-time strategy as far as sci-fi goes.
Company that made this game: Blizzard

4) Age of Empires 2: based-on-real-information real-time strategy game where you pick one of thirteen or so races and based
on those races, you get specific bonuses/detriments. I learned more about history because of this game alone than I ever did
in four years of high school. I seriously suggest you go get the strategy guide to Age of Empires 2: Conquerors and read it...
cover to cover...and I think you'll agree. Races include byzantines, mongols, britons, aztecs, koreans, spanish, mayans, japanese,
turks, chinese, franks, teutons, persians, celts, and vikings (continued list here)... Play it. You'll be setting up LAN parties at
the press forgetting to put out tomorrow's paper all because you're about to roll up in player X's camp with a bunch of pissed off
berserkers (viking special), trebuchets, cavalry, archers, and battering rams (can we say raiding party?) and he's egging you
on because he's got his towers, castles, and defending parties ready to go. Company that made this game: Ensemble Studios

Now, I could list all the games I play but that list would be more than this email could allow. Most of these are viciously violent
and definitely are displayed in all their gore by my $400 video card (NVidia's Geforce4 ti4600) and I love every second of it.
Games are made for entertainment and people that think that they're more realistic than reality didn't have the right upbringing,
social structures, or whatever. Blame the families and blame the life they put themselves in. Don't blame the games because
that hardly has anything to do with it. Also, what a person reads doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to do something.
Every book you named could be found at www.amazon.com or at Waldenbook's and by your article, books of any violent
nature should be removed from bookshelves. There went fiction, nonfiction, sci-fi, etc... Am I left to read those soft-porn romance
novels that women like to read?

Moral of this email: There's always another side to the story and I have yet to read anyone's rebuttal in defense of gamers. This
email serves as that defense because we are not like this kid who was apparently warped from the word 'go' and his parents
didn't do much of anything for him. If you're wanting, you can quote me on anything in this email (although I doubt it'd be printed,
it seems only the negative stuff ever makes it to the pages), all I ask is that due credit remains. Thanks for your time and I'll be
off gaming the night away while someone's reading this.

--Todd

System administration -- it's not just my job, it's how I buy video games.

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It may not go anywhere, it may be ignored and/or deleted, but at least I know I tried.