~*~*Here we go again!*~*~

Your right! "Here we go again"...

Once again, the people who have provided the world with most of the best ideas like religous toleration and multicultural society, and the best free tools - like in INTERNET - are slammed by a bunch of intolerant monocultural Nazis!

As another poster observed, these people can't wait to send their kids to the US where they can get the best healthcare and education in the world. Then at the same time - out of the other side of their sneering faces - they claim a religious zeal to destroy that which they love. So, they are no better emotionally then little brat kids who break their toys and are disrespectful to their parents.

I have absolutely no problem with profiling these visitors (the ones holding visas - NOT US citizens) and sending them all back home so they can live in the paradise that they have created. I am well aware that our universities will need to find other "customers" for their services. I will honestly miss them. Like most Americans, I like different cultures. Most cities and towns in the US have German-American festivals, St. Patrick Day festivities, Greek festivals, and here in the midwest Lebanese-American and Syrian restaurants and other middle-eastern cultural activities.

So, when others in the world think that we are parochial, that shows their ignorance!

And laughingly, when these jihadis scream their epithets at "Americans", they are also including their own kind in their hatred. We are not all Anglo-Saxon! We are German, French, Lebanese, Syrian, Egyptian, Moroccan, Italian, Swiss, Australian, atc.

Hate us and you hate yourselves!

AMEN!!! I agree with the profiling issue... I have to problem with this. SInce most of problem arrise from a small group of folks, then lets just focus our attention there. Not 100% but a major part of it. Let's face it my 80 year old Grandma is not a terrorist and she should not have to go through the same rigid scrutiny that a young middle eastern male should. Sorry if that offens anyone but ..... that's how I fell... I have NO problem with other races or religions whatever... but let's have a little common sense...

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Originally posted here by paldie
AMEN!!! I agree with the profiling issue... I have to problem with this. SInce most of problem arrise from a small group of folks, then lets just focus our attention there. Not 100% but a major part of it. Let's face it my 80 year old Grandma is not a terrorist and she should not have to go through the same rigid scrutiny that a young middle eastern male should. Sorry if that offens anyone but ..... that's how I fell... I have NO problem with other races or religions whatever... but let's have a little common sense...

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I wish I had the statistics here for the racial breakdown of people arrested compared to the breakdown of convictions.

Excuse me, but the problem (at least as the government wants us to believe) is rooted in religion, not race. Now, for instance, take a random Indian/Pakistani. Are they Muslim? Please guess for each of these 50 people, and we'll check your accuracy and THEN let them go from groundless arrests to their disrupted and invaded lives. Now, we try the same experiment with someone ELSE who an ignorant public or highway cop might think suspicious... How about a 3rd generation immigrant from Saudi Arabia?

Common Sense that is all that anyone can ask for... A thrid generation Saudi Arbian is less likely to be a suspect then someone here on a student visa. But everyone need to understand there have to be questions asked of everyone...

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AMEN!!! I agree with the profiling issue... I have to problem with this. SInce most of problem arrise from a small group of folks, then lets just focus our attention there. Not 100% but a major part of it. Let's face it my 80 year old Grandma is not a terrorist and she should not have to go through the same rigid scrutiny that a young middle eastern male should. Sorry if that offens anyone but ..... that's how I fell... I have NO problem with other races or religions whatever... but let's have a little common sense...

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Look back in history and tell me how many cultures have used their children and elderly as suicide bombs....

ok so back to my original premiss and build concrete walls around the country and become isolationists.... and let the whole world go to heck in the hand basket...

I have a better idea paldie...lets build a mile high wall around their country and fill it with jello.

Sorry, I just saw a bit of humor in this....probably not really a humorous subject though.

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no empire has survived so far.
it is time humans start to unite and face real issues like global warming, hunger and virii (real).
people study these things and predict that in somewhat years ................

nobody can predict the future offcourse but still.

The question is not one of hatred and certainly not one of religion.

It was stated earlier that religion was the cause for more wars. Anyone who studies military history should realize that it is not religion that starts wars it is the hunger for Power, control, and greed. Religion is the excuse used to get the common man to fight the war that will bring the ruler or ruling class the power, land, and money they desire.

So what is the cause for warfare in the Middle East. Some will say it is the Jewish Homeland and that America is targeted because of our involvement with Israel. Then how do we justify all of the warfare and unrest before the Jews established a homeland there. What about the Mahdi uprisings, the Hindu/Muslim conflicts, the inter muslim wars. The region is one that has only felt peace when controlled by a strong empiracle government (Ottoman, Seljuk, Persian, Median, Tartar, Byzantine). Whenever one of these empires fell the region erupted into multiple wars until one group would sieze and ruthlessly maintain dominance over the region.

America is not the country to do this therefore we should tread very lightly in immersing ourselves into a conflict that has few positive outcomes and many negative possibilities. We should also be very careful in trying to change our actions to please a group of people who have historically (and I mean back to antiquity) shown that they feel there is no room for compromise and weakness shown is strength gained.

I am proud to be an American, I am proud to be in a country which gives more money, per capita than any other nation in the world to other nations. I am proud to be in a country where our poor people are fat (as am I), I am proud to be in a nation where race problems are attacked (not conquered) and where they don't involve genocide. I am proud that in our nation we have not treated muslims the way they treat us in their nations, even after being heavily provoked by terrorist acts.

So don't talk to me about religious differences, speak to me about cultural ones and I certainly believe that our culture, with all of its flaws, is far superior to one that refuses to even believe it can have flaws.

Sorry for the rant but it felt good.

and i predict people will be bored with all this for maybe...5 years...:argue: :fpissed: :halo: :argue: