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Personnaly, I'm getting very bored with the conversations in #AO.. Everything always ends up in sex talk or other non-computer related subjects... I mean, AO is about computer security, why not spawn another permanent channel for divers conversations and keep #AO for computers/security conversations instead of having to do the reverse...
Ammo
Ammo, with all due respect, I think that if you start a convo about something computer related, you'll get a lot of feedback. You can't just lurk, and then complain because you don't like what's being talked about. It's like the forums, if you don't like what you're reading, try posting something new and different!
Deb ;)
Yeah well, from experiance, it usually gets drowned away in the ohter conversations...
And besides, I don't consider myself a lurker: I listen, when someone has a relevent question or comment, I try to reply, if I have something intelligent to say about it. When I have a relevent question or comment, I ask. Just because I'm not talking all the time about all the blah blah blah doesn't make me a lurker. At least not IMHO.
Check my profile, my last 20 posts: I think that describes me.
Ammo
<edit>Besides, I don't get your change of perspective from your previous post in the thread...?!</edit>
Ok I admit it I’m a total lurker. If I don't have anything to say I don't say it.
It’s kind of unfair to single out the DNA conversation. Even if it was off topic it was still much more interesting then senseless ramblings that so often occur on irc.
Keep Quad, He does a good job. Latley I've noticed Juridian showing control in the IRC and I completely back him up also. Plain and simple, the sex stuff has to go somewhere else. That is what the #chat channel was created for. I have also noticed that alot of debates tend to take place and that also tends to interupt computer topics. I'm not saying debating a topic is bad in anyway, I rather enjoy it, but I think that it should be taken to #debate. There you can freely input your thoughts without other people that arn't interested complaining and throwing out stupid comments just to be seen. Remember, IRC can have more than just one channel. Once people learn to join a channel that is appropriate for the conversations they are having, there won't be any more problems. I look at the main #antionline channel as the main meeting place, and once you get into a conversation, move it to the appropriate channel(s). I agree that the IRC has gotten out of hand in the past, but I have also noticed that the Ops have been taking steps to rid the channels of that. I think we are in a period of transformation of the IRC and I like what I'm seeing so far. Not everyone likes change, granted, but it is needed regardless. Just my $.02
x
The sex talk is coming to and end for the most part. People are getting told to take that to pm, another channel, or another server.
The DNA conversation did carry on for a bit, but that eventually was ended and the people involved were told to take it to another channel if they wanted to keep at it.
The main channel is getting cleaned up. Now if people aren't talking about something that interests you, then bring something up. If that doesn't work, then find a different way to bring it up that gets people interested. The people there aren't here to babysit you and keep you interested....so if you aren't actively participating and no one is talking about what you want then tough.
Some of the people complaining about the ops, well I've seen some of you in the channel and I know at some of the reasons why there is friction. Illegal hacking questions, people with huge 'I'm 1337' egos, or giving attitude that they don't need to be get flamed ALOT. Now I now that not everyone who get's flamed does that, and some people get flamed that probably shouldn't but that is something that is getting worked on. There are also some 'regulars' who need to chill out with their attitudes....
Mah last gripe is for the c conversation. There was a large group of people helping someone with some c code and a couple of people who were using the main channel for a basically two way convo got annoyed. Ummm...tough. Take the two way convo to pm. I should have said that at the time, but I had short people buggin me for food.
Just my .02
Note: The views expressed in this message are most likely NOT the views held by all of the irc ops. This is just me since I'm on most of the weekend while the other ops have lives. :)
I'm new here and am trying to teach myself sys admin skills. When I found AntiOnline I thought "Finally :) , a place where I can hang with others who are interested in IT and many are better educated than I."
Thought I would hit the IRC and just watch what everyone was talking about. I was a little surprised to see as much "off topic" as I saw.
I'm not "boring" enough to think that ALL that get discussed it networking/security... this is a community and of course the topic is going to stray. People are going to have fun, talk about what they want (happy, sad, angry, lewd, frustrated etc...).
But I'd hate to get "pushed out" of a chat channel just because I brought up something on topic. As it is, it takes a little courage to talk with you all when I'm a newbie.
And a little courage to post ! :(
Delyn
Delyn-WK, nobody's better than anyone so don't worry about posting/chatting. We all eat, breathe, and bleed the same. Knowledge is to be shared...until then, how can anyone say they know anything?
I'm new here and am trying to teach myself sys admin skills. When I found AntiOnline I thought "Finally :) , a place where I can hang with others who are interested in IT and many are better educated than I."
Thought I would hit the IRC and just watch what everyone was talking about. I was a little surprised to see as much "off topic" as I saw.
I'm not "boring" enough to think that ALL that get discussed it networking/security... this is a community and of course the topic is going to stray. People are going to have fun, talk about what they want (happy, sad, angry, lewd, frustrated etc...).
But I'd hate to get "pushed out" of a chat channel just because I brought up something on topic. As it is, it takes a little courage to talk with you all when I'm a newbie.
And a little courage to post ! :(
Delyn
hmm im sorry to hear that Vorlin.. thats an odd situation really.. being in IRC myself we all love to talk about computers and computer security.. only when we are all bored and got nothing to say when we start talking about something else..
hmm... i'd tell that d00d off if i were there.. after all AO IRC is a good way to discuss some computer and security related stuff.. i dunno maybe these things happen when im not around but usually when someone needs help in things we try to help them as much as we can.. sometimes its a downfall coz there are 3 ppl talking about thesame topic but very inconsistant.. one example was when Lady_Haxor asked some help with her FTP and me and another member (sorry if i didnt remember u d00d) even ended up arguing about some concepts.. and no one stoped us.. GreekGoddess needed help in her C Compiler and we all helped and as usual ended up arguing about some things... well its more like debating than arguing.. coz we didnt end up calling eachother names.. lol
so in brief.. what u said quite surprised me.. but after all it is IRC.. and anything can happen in there..