Guys,
For the moment i can only think of two advantages for cloning:
1) Organs - to replace other infected and/or irreparable organs.
2) Animals - to preserve different animal breeds at the edge of extinction.
Bye.
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Guys,
For the moment i can only think of two advantages for cloning:
1) Organs - to replace other infected and/or irreparable organs.
2) Animals - to preserve different animal breeds at the edge of extinction.
Bye.
Just a quick update, it seems the child had actually already been born, and the DNA of the child and mother is already unergoing testing to see if its a true clone or a hoax.
allenb1963 > Actually the mothers name is out, I just saw her ona news broadcase just a few minutes ago. I hate to be a pessimist, but I don't think the child will live more than a year or two, giving the inherent problems encountered with Dolly.
Yeah the extinct animals too. . .here's an atricle on a group of Japanese scientist that are going to clone, hopefully, a wolly mammoth
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/08/21/clone.mammoth/
bludgeon > Thats probably one of the best uses for cloning that I can think of. But I wonder, what would we do about habitat for them? Unfortunately the population growes every year, and we spread farther into un-touched lands, pushing animals into smaller and smaller habitats. With a creature as large as the wooly mammoth, I would think it would end up pushing other animals out of their natural habitats.
Pretty sure they're gunna keep it under lock and key at the zoo, poor little Wooly Mammoth, heh heh, I say clone a bunch of them and let them roam around Montana and the sparser populated areas of Canada, j/k, Yeah Syini I'm sure it would mess with the ecology if we releases extinct species like the mammoths into the wild, but there are other types of animals that are near extinction or just recently extinct that would do wonders for the ecology if they were brought back in mass. . .as well as certain types of plant life and algeas.
I think I remember seeing something about Dolly the sheep having advanced aging disease and that it could be a possible side effect of cloning. I hope this doesn't happen to this child (if the cloning is even real) as that would be a sad thing indeed.
I don't agree with cloning as I think we are tampering with things we don't fully understand or appreciate yet. We act like we understand genetics but if you get right down to it we don't. We can't even defeat a simple RNA virus so how can we know all there is to know about DNA and genetics? We have only started mapping the genome so I don't think we have a clear understanding of what we are doing yet.
El Diablo
Well its scarry having human clones. First off, this may sound harsh but people arn't ment to live forever. If we were supposed to then we would, dont you think? Next off, clones could be used by evil people to replace a real living human to get information or get control of some big buisness or something. The only good i see in cloning animals is for food.
Hi guys,
I am all for cloning, new research and new technology. Only when cloning or any research is done for greed, hate, and selfish reasons, then I will be against it. Mankind has always feared change and of the unknown. This cloned baby might not be perfect but at least we can learn more about our self. We still have many questions unanswered, but we have lot of philosophies, governments, religions and beliefs to stop us from the freedom of exploring.
also .............from Yahoo News
HOLLYWOOD, Florida (Reuters) - Scientists have reacted with strong scepticism to reports that a cult, which believes extraterrestrials created mankind, has produced the first clone of a human being.
The cult has offered no proof to back up its announcement on Friday that the world's first cloned baby had been born.
Clonaid chief executive officer Brigitte Boisselier, who belongs to the cult, said the baby girl was born to a 31-year-old American woman on Thursday at 11:55 a.m. She was cloned through cells taken from the mother, Boisselier told a news conference in Hollywood, Florida.
"I'm very, very pleased to announce that the first baby clone is born," she said. "We called her Eve.
"The baby is very healthy and she's doing fine. The parents are very happy," the French scientist said at the news conference at a beachside Holiday Inn.
The baby was not a monster or "something disgusting," she said. The parents, who had been infertile, did not wish to show off the baby, she said, declining to disclose who they were or where the baby was born.
Experts questioned Clonaid's claim that it had successfully produced the first human clone with procedures much like those used to clone Dolly the sheep.
Dr Harry Griffin, who heads the Roslin Institute that cloned Dolly, was among those scientists calling for hard evidence of the cloning.
He also questioned the safety of such a procedure. "All the available evidence from experiments on animals suggest it is a highly risky procedure that puts the child at risk of serious genetic disorders, maybe for the rest of its life," he told BBC Radio on Saturday.
Glenn Carter, president of the UK Raelian movement, said proof would be provided in the next few days.
"It would be a surprise to me if it were that simple to clone humans," said Dr Barry Zirkin, head of the division of reproductive biology at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland.
"Based on the experience with animals, one would imagine it would take many many shots to actually get a human baby."
Boisselier said an independent expert would conduct genetic tests on the baby to verify the breakthrough.
"You should have the answers and all the proof you need in about eight days," she said. "I received so many emails of hope. I received so many insults and death threats at the same time. ... I am not afraid."
The baby was delivered by Caesarean section and weighed seven pounds (3.1 kg), Boisselier said, adding that four more cloned babies would be delivered by the end of January.
CULT SAYS ALIENS CREATED MANKIND
Clonaid was founded by Claude Vorihon, who calls himself Rael and founded a cult called the Raelians. The company website lists Boisselier as "a Raelian Bishop."
The Raelians, who claim 55,000 followers around the world, believe life on Earth was sparked by extraterrestrials who arrived 25,000 years ago and created humans through cloning.
"I do believe that we have been created by scientists. I thank them for my life. If science created me, then science has done some good," said Boisselier, who has a mane of red hair streaked with grey and who dressed for the news conference in a black skirt outfit, fishnet stockings and a high-heeled boots.
"Is my science worse than the one used in preparing bombs to kill people? I create life."
Cattle, mice, sheep and other animals have been cloned with mixed success. Some have displayed defects later in life and scientists fear the same could happen with cloned humans.
Randall Prather, a reproductive biotechnology professor at the University of Missouri, said independent tests would be essential to determine whether the baby is in fact a clone.
"Is it possible in humans? Potentially. Have we seen problems with cloning domestic animals? Yes. Do we understand what causes those problems? No. Therefore we shouldn't do it," Prather said.
Carl Feldbaum, president of the Biotechnology Organisation, a trade group that represents the interests of the biotech industry in Washington, blasted the claim as irresponsible and questioned its accuracy.
"We're reiterating our strong opposition to human cloning on both safety and ethical grounds," he said.
Clonaid has been racing Italian fertility doctor Severino Antinori to produce the first cloned baby. Antinori said he expected one of his patients to give birth to a cloned baby in January.
U.S. President George W. Bush has asked Congress to ban the creation of cloned babies as well as the cloning of human embryos for medical research. The U.S. House of Representatives passed a ban but a similar bill in the Senate stalled after scientists argued such a law would hinder medical advances.
Republican Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas said on Friday: "While I'm sceptical about today's report, this points to the need for Congress to enact a permanent and comprehensive ban on human cloning when we return."
CRITICS CALL FOR CLONING BAN
Non-profit and public interest groups have lined up on both sides of the controversy. Early Friday, anticipating the announcement, Chicago-based Centre for Bioethics and Human Dignity said it condemned the Clonaid effort.
"The fact that renegade scientists are apparently continuing to work to clone human beings despite the proven dangers of mammalian cloning shows that the United States and the rest of the world need to pass a complete ban on this dangerous and unethical procedure as soon as possible," said C. Ben Mitchell, a senior fellow at the centre.
The Vatican's top moral theologian, Father Gino Concetti, also condemned the possibility of human cloning in a recent interview.
Clonaid started work with human eggs last January and made 10 implantations in the spring, Boisselier said. Five were terminated and five were successful.
The next baby would be born to a lesbian couple in a hospital somewhere in northern Europe next week, she said. The other expectant parents were a U.S. couple and two from Asia.
Twenty more implantations were planned for January. Clonaid planned to open at least one cloning clinic on every continent and had received thousands of requests, Boisselier said.
She also said Clonaid planned further clonings as a commercial enterprise as investors expected some return.
Asked about the cost, she said. "I don't know. I'm not very good at business."
More Links to Cloning :
http://194.83.182.241/MillHillEssays/1997/cloning.htm
http://www.globalchange.com/clonech.htm
http://www.agrino.org/shangaris/GenClon/
http://www.humancloning.org/
http://www.reproductivecloning.net/
http://www.truthtree.com/clone.shtml
http://www.wordwiz72.com/cloning.html
http://www.srtp.org.uk/cloning.shtml
http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...th011402.shtml
Lets keep an open mind..............
[gloworange]Dr_Evil[/gloworange]
Actually were nearing completion, if not completed, on mapping the human genome, now we're moving onto mices and other things, like corn. . .http://www.ornl.gov/hgmis/ (don't know how up to date it is, because they said that we will complete the sequencing in '03, but I thohught I read somehwere that we had already completed it). The whole process of cloning someone really isn't all that hard to imagine, they take an ovum, remove all the genetic material from it, replace it with the donor dna and implate it into the womb of a mammal, just like a lot of pregnancies now and days, only they don't remove the genes. About the whole you can replace someone with a clone thing. . .you can't do that, you are you, Madsel, even if you were cloned, and the clone looked just like you, there would stil be small distinguishing characteristics, and a completley seperate personality, nature vs. nurture and all that, cloning isn't making a carbon copy, it's more like making a very very close approximation of the original.
ugh, people trying to play God...Watch day of the dead by george a romero, people have to learn to leave some stuff alone, its amazing what cience can do.... When no one tells them to quit.