i wasnt pointing fingers, just meerly giving suggestions
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i wasnt pointing fingers, just meerly giving suggestions
Ok. I'm not sure what happened to the discussion. The point I was trying to make is that to assume that one needs 1GB, 5GB or what-have-you of RAM without asking some clarifying questions (e.g.,What is your RAM amount? How much does XP take up now? What do you intend to do with your Linux? What do you want to learn from it?) doesn't help someone learn how to use the OS. Because I didn't know what his RAM is I thought it's better to say "double your physical", which is a good rule of thumb for most *nix.
It strikes me that dopeydadwarf is a new linux user and is better off starting with the guidelines/manual set forth by the manufacturer to start off with his first exploration. If in time, he is comfortable and wants to explore then going for anything is possible. So rather than getting snippy at each other, someone needs to help dopeydadwarf through the install because when it comes down to it there is no script, you will have to do it by hand and you should back up everything just in case (the Saint of Computers is Murphy and his law rules over everything -- "If it can go wrong, it will and it will in a big nasty way").
So, to dopeydadwarf:
1. What are you going to do with your Linux? (learn OS, experiment, etc.)
2. What are your hardware specs? (RH 7.2 has some issues on install with certain video cards. The installer, anaconda, may bitch about them and cause grief)
3. How much space does XP take and how much is actual free space? How much more space to you project (best guestimate) will your XP take?
4. errr.. I ran out of questions. :D .. Let's start with that and go from there.
The 'swapspace have to be 2 times your ram space' is a pretty old "rule" going back to... I think windows 3.1. You needed free space on your harddisk to store proces information and open files and the like, if the ram got full... That was in the time 512 kb of ram was much. There's no need to have 1 gig of swap even in this time. You need swap when you want to compile kde 3.1 on a 486 with 4 mb ram. It's nice to have much swap space if you can affort it, but you practicly don't need more then 2 gig ever. At least not today (march 2003). If you have to much it even get's in efficient and will only slow down the pc. Sawpspace is more like a "buffer" zone for you ram, not a replacement.
MsMittens
#1/ I planned just to first learn how to create a dual boot system. Then after success was evident, I was going to start my many years of expeimentation with a new OS. Since this ver of RedHat 7.2 was given to me a few days ago still in the "shrink wrap", my blood started itching for that KNOWLEDGE that DRUG we call FREE INFORMATION.
And i've always wanted to see what the rave about the penguin was, so I started this thread.
I've been with Win since 3.1, and some DOS before that. I understand many aspects of computing, networking via token and ethnet, html, java/script, currently learning anything I can get my eyes on, i've even raised some hell a time or few with this lovely beige box.
But we demand free information, we'll that comes with some responsibility. When I was a child, I thought as a child, spoke as a child, understood as a child, hacked as a child. But when I became a man I put away childish things.
#2/Sorry not applicable. I have a VPR MATRIX 2020. ATX P4 DDR mother board, P4 2.0 GHz Processor, 256MB DDR, 100GB- 7200rpm Western Digital HDD, Lite-On 32x/12x/40x CD-RW, Lite-on 16x DVD-ROM, Visiontek GeForce2 GTS-V with 64MB DDR, Creative Labs Soundblaster Live 5.1, a 300 watt power supply, 1.44 MB floppy, and a 1394 Card. With lost of room to expand.
If you'd like I also have Part #'s for the aforementioned hardware.
Very nice PC, very pleased with it.
#3/With my few external devices, and few applications, I've 83.4 gig free for whatever. So if we split her in half, we could reasonably go 50gig/50gig. If this isn't addiquate in your opinions then I've got another 80 giger on the bench with a quick format, I could master/slave into the picture, and have two drives for Win and Linux respectivley.
I hope this is enough information. For you
Smilez and Thanks
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But we demand free information, we'll that comes with some responsibility. When I was a child, I thought as a child, spoke as a child, understood as a child, hacked as a child. But when I became a man I put away childish things.
LMAO, i love it....what a horrible movie IMO, anyways though dual booting is very easy , if i was you i would make sure to read over the PM manual before just incase you run into any probs. be sure to make backup's before installing RH (cause as im sure you know...**** happens) and basically its just following a few simple instructions.i made the switch over to linux a few months ago and im sure you will enjoy it.....especially if all you have used is winblows..woops i mean windows.what i have done..in case you want something to think about is i use linux for all my internet and d/l needs and use windows for my gameing fix and for making any documents that someone ask for that can only be made under windows.anywasy have fun, im sure youll figure it out the previous postings give some good info on the topic so ill shut up now ;) take it easy.
While you have the latest and greatest stuff, just keep in mind that it might still have issues. The biggest issue would be the video card but if it sticks to the NVIDIA specs it should (theorectically) be ok.Quote:
Originally posted here by dopeydadwarf
MsMittens
#2/Sorry not applicable. I have a VPR MATRIX 2020. ATX P4 DDR mother board, P4 2.0 GHz Processor, 256MB DDR, 100GB- 7200rpm Western Digital HDD, Lite-On 32x/12x/40x CD-RW, Lite-on 16x DVD-ROM, Visiontek GeForce2 GTS-V with 64MB DDR, Creative Labs Soundblaster Live 5.1, a 300 watt power supply, 1.44 MB floppy, and a 1394 Card. With lost of room to expand.
So, why not split it 50/50 (allowing for overhead on the drive)? Just use Partition Magic (ver #?) to resize the free space. Pop in the CDs, boot from Disk #1 and follow the instructions. You might want to choose expert rather than just standard install as that can erase your existing XP install. The bootloader in Linux (LILO in 7.2) will take care of the dualboot portion.
And as hatebreed2000 re-iterated.. BACKUP everything of importance just in case. :D
Edit If anyone wants to verify their hardware for RH visit here.
I will just use this opportunity to throw in a shameless plug for my introduction to Linux partitioning. :D
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=233779