Hey Frame where do you get your Avatars from you have had some pretty cool one's
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Hey Frame where do you get your Avatars from you have had some pretty cool one's
WHizkid2300
How is pulling off a text book counter offensive to a blitz style offensive cowardess? When facing a overwhelmingly superior opposing force your best bet is to go to ground and wage a war of attrition using no conventional combatants.Quote:
Originally posted here by FrameWork
So it's brave to fight like a coward, and try to kill those who just set you free from a murderous dictator who rapes and tortures anyone who opposes him?
Sorry nebulus, but i think i understand fully the difference between bravery and cowardess.
Oh wait I see, you fell that the French and polish resistance in WWII and our founding fathers during the revolution where a bunch of stinking cowards. I understand now.
I may not have liked Sadamm (or the part of the US government that supported him in the 80’s) but opposing our troops is defiantly not cowardess
bballad, i would appreciate it if you would'nt shove words into my mouth next time pal.Quote:
Oh wait I see, you fell that the French and polish resistance in WWII and our founding fathers during the revolution where a bunch of stinking cowards. I understand now.
Those may or may not be your thoughts on that, but not mine. ;)
I don't necessarily think all is fair in war. I don't consider those doing the killings in Iraq as legitimate fighters, let's face it these are Saddams thug's. Saddam himself just released a tape in which he said he was behind these murders, so you can go ahead and defend these Saddam loyalist if that's what you wanna do bballad.Quote:
How is pulling off a text book counter offensive to a blitz style offensive cowardess? When facing a overwhelmingly superior opposing force your best bet is to go to ground and wage a war of attrition using no conventional combatants.
Actually, yes. It is 'brave' to resist a foreign invader that now occupies your homeland, the very act of which will eventually lead to your demise. The only thing that would happen if the Iraqi army tried to resist in a traditional battle would be a repeat of when the Iraqi's tried to flee Kuwait City during the Gulf War (if you don't remember, I am refering to the 'Highway of Death', where hundreds, if not thousands, were killed by American A-10's, Apaches, and Cobra's).Quote:
So it's brave to fight like a coward, and try to kill those who just set you free from a murderous dictator who rapes and tortures anyone who opposes him?
Their goal is the removal of US and allied forces from Iraq, to do so from a pitched battle would only result in their annihlation, which means they would fail in their goal. They are fighting in the only way that they can without becoming dead in the process, which is where I am coming from when I say there is a very fine line between bravery and stupidity. It is brave to resist, it is foolish in this case to do so in a fixed battle.
I guess following your own logic, the biggest cowards in the entire world would be the US Special Forces? Dropping like the cowards they are behind enemy lines and attacking and then fleeing? Blowing up targets and disappearing into the night?
IMHO, you are way off. Our special forces are some of the bravest men on the planet and on a daily basis pull off some of the most dangerous missions imagineable. While I vehemently dislike Sadaam Hussein, fully support our troops and president, and am appalled at the daily loss of American lives in Iraq, the men that are perpetrating these acts against our soldiers are NOT cowards. They are vile and misguided supporters of a failed and murderous regime, but not cowards.
/nebulus
You guys interpretation of coward is obviously different than mine, i'm fine with that. I stand by what i have posted, i think those who kill for Saddam are cowards.
I have to go with Ballad if I am reading him right. Look at you history, how did Amreica when the Revolutionary war. Guerilla Tactics. They worl when you are fighting a stronger force don;t go into a straight fight hit them where it hurts now, to if I hink they are cowards or not, Hum yeah but no you sometimes in desperate situations do what you must.
Whizkid2300
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Originally posted here by FrameWork
I think these Iraqi "gorrillas" are a bunch of cowards. They know they can't take us one on one, so they have to fight like cowards.
Here, i'll just take this post that i made at the first of this thread and clarify. I should have just stated in the beginning that i think those who are fighting on behalf of Saddam are cowards. I did'nt know that this thread was going to turn into a big debate on what the definition of coward is. I don't give a flip about cowards, you guys can continue to debate the definition of "coward" without me. Again, i'm hereby making it clear, i think those who are fighting on behalf of Saddam hussien are cowards.
So what is your definition of coward? some one who dosn't hold your beleifs? Perhaps we need to get you a diconary.
bballad your just being juvenile.
I already stated that:
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Again, i'm hereby making it clear, i think those who are fighting on behalf of Saddam hussien are cowards.
You know, for a party who preaches tolerance, you guys never seem to show any for the other side.Quote:
So what is your definition of coward? some one who dosn't hold your beleifs?
Umm what party would that be ..personally I hate the left as much as I hate the right. IMHO any one who identifies themselves as a liberal or a conservative should be shot.
Now you have told us who you think are cowards...but why are they cowards, pretend I am real stupid and define the term for me not using the word coward in the definition. The any one who fights the Americans in Iraq is a coward statement tells me that you think any one who disagrees with you is a coward...that’s a very odd definition of the word.
Oh ya whizkid2300 an answer for your original question. If the US media said that a soldier was killed in combat instead of blown up, or shot instead of killed by a sniper, it would make it very hard to demonize our opponent.