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Omg, of all the lamest... Lol, won't waste my time...Quote:
You guys would make the Talaban proud.
Am I offended, honestly yes. If you took those statements to heart, which I think you did. Thinking that we really wanted to do something like that, you're wrong. Too bad for you.
However, wouldn't you be a little heated if you were in my position. I mean come on gimme a break it's a cross for crying out loud.
Off to work, if you wanna throw this into another little cyber-debate, be my guest. :o
Allen...what exactly is your point here? You want someone to prove they don't believe in god by letting you throw them off a building? :confused: What would that prove? I would suggest that your local religious fanatic would be a little more likely to be willing to jump off a roof, then they can spend eternity in heaven w/ the god they killed themselves to prove their faith in :) Personally, I don't believe in god, or in an "afterlife" in heaven. So...I'm not in a big hurry to end this life, as it may be the only one I ever have.Quote:
Originally posted here by allenb1963
I don't....honestly. I believe that if you took an "atheist" to the top of a twenty story building and threw them off that they would cry out for God, Allah, Budda or some deity to save them. The one problem is that I have yet to find an "atheist" whose beliefs in atheism are firm enough to help me prove this theory....any takers out there?
Deb....even though I truly do not believe in atheists, I would have hoped that all of you would have been able to laugh at the sheer absurdity of the building statement. Has everyone with a sense of humor left AO????
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An afterthought...
That statement tells me that you must believe in something or you would have been absolutely sure that you only have one life. The reincarnation "theory" recognises a higher power. ;)Quote:
So...I'm not in a big hurry to end this life, as it may be the only one I ever have.
I believe that I don't know what happens when I die. There may be another life, but I don't know what it is. I know what I can and can't believe, or do or don't believe, whichever way you'd like to look at it.
I understood the absurdity of the question. What I don't understand is why you feel the beliefs, or non-beliefs as it may be, of an atheist are somehow trivial, and can't really be a true belief? Why do you insist that they are somehow less true in their beliefs than a Christian/Jew/Muslim/Whatever. Why do you feel it is somehow okay to mock Atheism, when you would be up in arms if someone made the same type of derogatory post about Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Whatever? This is the point I was trying to make with my post. Read the tone of your original post, and the tones of the posts made to support yours, and substitute ANYTHING besides Atheism into it, and I would hope you will see why I personally found it an offensive and ignorant post. :)
Believe what you wish. Don't let that belief make you close-minded to what others around you might choose to believe. Open your mind, and you might be surprised at what you learn.
no, don't believe i did.... i don't get offended at all when people are religious, or show signs of their religion at any point and time. all my friends are strong religious believersQuote:
Originally posted here by THE RADICAL
some of them get so offended when I go to school wearing my cross necklace?
...well, he got shut down, very, very, quickly... :D
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no, don't believe i did.... i don't get offended at all when people are religious, or show signs of their religion at any point and time. all my friends are strong religious believers
uhhhh, dude I wasn't saying that you or anybody else here would be offended by that. It was something that did happen in my school that I felt was utterly ridiculous and just had to share. When I said that he got shut down very quickly, that ment that some people that were around when it happend that I didn't even know and I ranted him out so bad that when we were done, it was so interseting to see that he really didn't have anything to say after that, I found it quite humorous. :rolleyes:
I'm glad that you don't feel that way Plastic, and in no way did I intend to imply that in my last post. There are some people out there however, that do, and it's pretty sad.
I agree 100%, There has never been any solid proof "what-so-ever" of there being a God.Quote:
I may not believe in some super-being sitting up in a cloud but i have common sense..saying "Oh my god!!!" is also a common expression of shock or suprise...so even if i were falling to my death and i did say something like "Oh my god!!!",it would mean completely nothing...And before you go on and tell me about your great Bible or Koran...do one thing..prove to me that there is a God!Thats all i ask..some solid proof...you do that,I'll gladly take you up on your suicide jump offer.. jag291
Peoples beliefs are put into their minds at certain times in their lives and accepted as "true"
because some-one said so.I'ts all about "belief", People believed that witches exsisted and
black magic was real. We thought the earth was flat until some-one proved otherwise. Why
is it that proven science fully explained and documented is ridiculed by "god" believer's ?
Because it is in direct conflict with their "word" spoken as fact. I'ts all about the science
community having to prove that what they have discovered is fact beyond a doubt, and even
then it is "judged" wrong because it exposes the real truth behind natures creation. Evolution
is real and can be seen in all life forms that exsist today. Whoever says that "Man" has not
evolved from the apes is so narrow minded and ignorant to the obvious fact it is beyond a
joke. When someone questions the truth in God they are taken to and criticised, When a
religious person questions the facts of proven science it is seen as a sign of faith. Too many
double standards for mine. Why is it that "religon" is the main cause of most wars? Is it
"Gods way" to have so many of "his faith" die for what i see as no reason at all? How many
Gods are there? Obviously more than one because if there truly was a god all would be in
agreeance and there wouldn't be any conflict. For the people that had the foresight and true
genious to create such a powerful story to make people want to believe and be good in all
things they did, I'm certain that they would be totally disgusted at how religon is used to
judge others and be the catalyst to untold misery that is and has been the resolt of all
religious wars. I don't look down at people who believe in god and i respect that they have
faith in it, but i cant help but feel they have locked themselves into a narrow view of reality.
Let me say that if there wasn't religon there wouldn't be a war on terror, the world would be
more peaceful and millions wouldn't die to justify the words in a book.
This is my opinion and i have all the right in the world to express it, as being an athiest
i can see with an open mind all the termoil,hatred,pain and suffering that religon has caused
and will continue to cause in the world, it makes me mad that people can be so stupid to
support something that creates so much bloodshed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about all the hope, joy, and happiness it has brought others?? Not to mention all of the people that are fed daily by those who are motivated by their religions to give this food to those who are starving.Quote:
This is my opinion and i have all the right in the world to express it, as being an athiest
i can see with an open mind all the termoil,hatred,pain and suffering that religon has caused
and will continue to cause in the world, it makes me mad that people can be so stupid to
support something that creates so much bloodshed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If giving food to a homeless man or a poor family makes me stupid, you can go ahead and make my new nickname Forrest Gump, cause id rather be the stupidest person on this planet than to have not done it at all.
I have to go with framwork on this one.
Without religion there would be a lot of people who would no longer fee motivated to help people. With all of the different religions in this world, about 95% of them believe in helping other people. Think of the hurricanes that hit honduras, then a bunch of missionaries, and other people went down there to help them rebuild there homes, and establish shelters. Therefore, I believe that the world is better with religions.
How come religion is taking the blame here for bloodshed? There are a bunch of other things beside religion that causes fights, and wars.
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What about all the hope,joy,and happiness it has brought others??Not to mention all of the people that are fed daily by those who are motivated by their religions to give this food to those who are starving.
FrameWork, Yes that is true, but there are also the same kind of helpful people that have
no association with religon at all that would go out of their way to help others.
I think that the amount of pain and suffering, loss of land and life that religon has created
far outweighs the good it has brought. Not only has it seperated the world as a community,
in some religons it has taught to totally hate the other. No matter how much the decent
people contribute to helping others, their will never be total and complete peace among
all humans, religon being the cause of this. While it might not be the main contributing
factor in war and poverty, it has proven to me to be a major part of the problem. I wish that
i was wrong in my way of thinking, but to put it into perspective, all that needs to be said is
would the world be in the current state of affairs if there was no religious tension? I strongly
doubt it.