and may i know why?Quote:
Hmm being from India may taint a viewpoint in regards to afganistan?
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and may i know why?Quote:
Hmm being from India may taint a viewpoint in regards to afganistan?
I wouldn't view India as a 3rd world country. It's not as developed as the united states in terms of infrastructure reaching huge areas and in fact that could be a good thing. I would view India as an emerging power. A very different place in all aspects.
India has a vested interest in Afganistan. Speaking politically; that was my motivation to the comment. Perhaps, taint wasn't the correct word - I didn't mean it to represent a negative point. I mean that perhaps being an Indian directly influences views on afganistan. After all you are in the neighborhood and are very interested in what happens there. In particular, perhaps the ralationship they could have with pakistan and the goods they could or could not eventually trade in, also the religeous relationship and how that may play into their future politics. I could go deeper into the cold war and our (united states) relationship to pakistan vs. afganistan and how that negatively affected the relationship to Inda because of soviet agression and our chosen support. But I think it gives you an idea where I come from in that statement.
OMG .. . whose forces are currently positioned in afganisthan. who is setting up military bses in Pakisthan and has a permenent millitary base in deigo gresia , now tell me who has vested interest in the region. so i might say your openion dosen't count as well , it dosen't work that way RoadClosed today even a small development affects everybody.well being a neighbour we are conserned with the developments in Afganisthan. India and Afganisthan shared a very good friendly relations before Pakisthan Sponsered Talibans took over. Afganisthan being stable helps us more than anybody. agreed U.S and India have not been best of friends I could also go deeper into the cold war and ask a few questions who created taliban , who funded Osama and party if not U.S. the same very people were supposed to be the good guys because they were the enemy's enemy (India and USSR) .Quote:
India has a vested interest in Afganistan.
You are taking my comments as an attack they aren't. The US supported Pakistan during the cold war because the Soviets invaded Afganistan. I wasn't speaking from my perspective, the US interest is obvious, diogo garcia has been there for a long time. Since the US supprted pakistan, the relationship with india has been strained and the relationship between india and afganistan has also been strained, you mentioned that yourself. I merely made a statement based on facts and history. You said yourself the relationship with afganistan was adversly effected by the "pakistan" lead Taliban. I was trying to say that your political and social history could effect your view on Afganistan. Nothing wrong with that, my politically conservative based american view of the region effects my way of thinking. I would think that being from India, you would be interested in a stable government with less ties to Pakistan but perhaps my opinion doesn't matters so much. ;)
As for the cold war, afganistan wouldn't have been their only target if opposing forces were't applied? Good or bad, the cause was considered correct at the time. In some cases in the past I got the impression that India hated Afganistan as much as Pakistan. That was the origin of my comment to put it on the table. It's a perception.
No it doesnt because it is refined into morphine base and acetylated into heroin(di-acetyl morphine) and then shipped to the usa(tons of it). Last i saw opium was quite rare and heroin plentiful ~15$can a quarter point (one quarter of one tenth of a gram at approx ten percent purity)Quote:
Originally posted here by RoadClosed
Darkes, I really doubt much of that opium hits the us, I am not in a drug trade,
"Don't know, but if we in the west didn't buy drugs in the first place, then this wouldn't be an issue"
So very true, you would think that the entrenchment of the mafia into american society due to the prohibition of alcohol would have been a lesson learned :(
The taliban had grown the poppy for many years for cash and right at the end of their time, offered to kill off "most" of the production to gain world kudos. Now they are back at it again.
Why is anyone surprised?
I have to strongly disagree with you on this issue.Quote:
Originally posted here by gold eagle
The taliban had grown the poppy for many years for cash and right at the end of their time, offered to kill off "most" of the production to gain world kudos. Now they are back at it again.
Why is anyone surprised?
The Taliban did not support the growing of this crop, which was, and is again today actively supported by the warlords that currently control most areas outside the capital.
If the US is serious about this, then this is the issue they have to deal with.
I'm not defending the Taliban in any way, as should have been clear from my original post.
However, they were extremely effective in doing what they set out to do - i.e. creating a very hardline Islamic state, which amongst other things forbids the production of drugs.
Well, that is the US for you. While we liberate the country, why not increase output the drug output of it. Haha. Not much that you can say. I doubt they are working as hard as they say they are to quelch it.
-Cheers-
ic completely agree with darkes The Taliban regime was the first in the history of Afghanistan to stop the cultivation of poppy It simply isn't possible for anyone except the Taliban to stop it overnight . They had real power. The present regime does not . whatever the Taliban thought was against their religion they were very strict about. be it poppy or women (liberation) ..