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What opperating systems are the computers running, what hardware are you working with? (i.e modems, NIC cards, routers....)

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On the main computer I'm running Windows XP and on this one (the one I want to make the client) is Windows ME. I have a Microsoft Wireless 802.11g Base Station....I got a AirPlus Xtreme G...but the retarded thing wouldnt fit in the client computer (my so proclaimed computer guru friend showed me which one to get). When I put it in this computer the metal part that shows with the blinking lights and the antenna is all upside down, I dont think that can be good...Is it the wrong kind of slot or what?

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What opperating systems are the computers running, what hardware are you working with? (i.e modems, NIC cards, routers....)

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On the main computer I'm running Windows XP and on this one (the one I want to make the client) is Windows ME. I have a Microsoft Wireless 802.11g Base Station....I got a AirPlus Xtreme G...but the retarded thing wouldnt fit in the client computer (my so proclaimed computer guru friend showed me which one to get). When I put it in this computer the metal part that shows with the blinking lights and the antenna is all upside down, I dont think that can be good...Is it the wrong kind of slot or what?

If you want to get high speed internet out in the country (or boonies as you called it) there is a way. Many satellite companies offer high-speed internet with their TV service. I haven't really researched their prices... but anything's better than dialup, right?

As for sharing the connection between two computers... faqt has the right idea about using internet connection sharing. I just skimmed the microsoft help system about ICS and it would work for you. You would need to setup a network between the two computers. This would easily be done with a crossover cat-5 network cable between the two computers (using network/nic/ethernet cards). You can pick-up cheap ass network cards for like $6, or good ones for about $20. You could always go off the deep end and drop $60 for a 1000mbps card, but that's a little overkill for sharing a network connection.

Oh yeah... the ICS stuff i read was in the windows XP "Help and Support center"

hope this helps

If you want to get high speed internet out in the country (or boonies as you called it) there is a way. Many satellite companies offer high-speed internet with their TV service. I haven't really researched their prices... but anything's better than dialup, right?

As for sharing the connection between two computers... faqt has the right idea about using internet connection sharing. I just skimmed the microsoft help system about ICS and it would work for you. You would need to setup a network between the two computers. This would easily be done with a crossover cat-5 network cable between the two computers (using network/nic/ethernet cards). You can pick-up cheap ass network cards for like $6, or good ones for about $20. You could always go off the deep end and drop $60 for a 1000mbps card, but that's a little overkill for sharing a network connection.

Oh yeah... the ICS stuff i read was in the windows XP "Help and Support center"

hope this helps

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If you want to get high speed internet out in the country (or boonies as you called it) there is a way. Many satellite companies offer high-speed internet with their TV service. I haven't really researched their prices... but anything's better than dialup, right?

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Heh...my dad tried that with a service called "Direcway". Every two weeks or so the connection would just stop, every once in a while we had to take off the cables in the back and cross the pins to get rid of static electricity. It got worse and worse then it just pooped out completely :rolleyes: . Yea the tech support sucked because you had to stay on the phone for like 2 hours and no one came to fix it. (it was like a local couple that installed it :confused: )

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As for sharing the connection between two computers... faqt has the right idea about using internet connection sharing. I just skimmed the microsoft help system about ICS and it would work for you. You would need to setup a network between the two computers. This would easily be done with a crossover cat-5 network cable between the two computers (using network/nic/ethernet cards). You can pick-up cheap ass network cards for like $6, or good ones for about $20. You could always go off the deep end and drop $60 for a 1000mbps card, but that's a little overkill for sharing a network connection.

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Would they sell cat-5 cables at like Best Buy? What would be the use of an internet router then though?

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If you want to get high speed internet out in the country (or boonies as you called it) there is a way. Many satellite companies offer high-speed internet with their TV service. I haven't really researched their prices... but anything's better than dialup, right?

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Heh...my dad tried that with a service called "Direcway". Every two weeks or so the connection would just stop, every once in a while we had to take off the cables in the back and cross the pins to get rid of static electricity. It got worse and worse then it just pooped out completely :rolleyes: . Yea the tech support sucked because you had to stay on the phone for like 2 hours and no one came to fix it. (it was like a local couple that installed it :confused: )

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As for sharing the connection between two computers... faqt has the right idea about using internet connection sharing. I just skimmed the microsoft help system about ICS and it would work for you. You would need to setup a network between the two computers. This would easily be done with a crossover cat-5 network cable between the two computers (using network/nic/ethernet cards). You can pick-up cheap ass network cards for like $6, or good ones for about $20. You could always go off the deep end and drop $60 for a 1000mbps card, but that's a little overkill for sharing a network connection.

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Would they sell cat-5 cables at like Best Buy? What would be the use of an internet router then though?

definition of router
from www.stallion.com/html/support/glossary.html

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A device that determines the next network point to which a data packet should be forwarded enroute toward its destination. The router is connected to at least two networks and determines which way to send each data packet based on its current understanding of the state of the networks it is connected to. Routers create or maintain a table of the available routes and use this information to determine the best route for a given data packet.

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For basic internet sharing between windows xp and windows me you don't require a router. Just out of curiosity, what kind of router are you trying to use? Were you looking to use it as a firewall as well, or only as a gateway to connect your LAN to the internet?

To use microsofts Internet Connection sharing, insert your windows XP disk, choose to perform additional tasks, share an internet connection, then use the wizard that opens to create a network disk, insert the network disk into the client computer and run it.

The two computers can be easily connected with a cross over cable and one NIC card on each machine. Make sure it is a cross over cable, normal cat 5 will require more NIC cards since you would have to have a connection for data traveling in each direction.
You can find Crossover cable at any store that carries computer stuff (best buy etc....just ask somebody where the cross over cable is.)

definition of router
from www.stallion.com/html/support/glossary.html

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A device that determines the next network point to which a data packet should be forwarded enroute toward its destination. The router is connected to at least two networks and determines which way to send each data packet based on its current understanding of the state of the networks it is connected to. Routers create or maintain a table of the available routes and use this information to determine the best route for a given data packet.

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For basic internet sharing between windows xp and windows me you don't require a router. Just out of curiosity, what kind of router are you trying to use? Were you looking to use it as a firewall as well, or only as a gateway to connect your LAN to the internet?

To use microsofts Internet Connection sharing, insert your windows XP disk, choose to perform additional tasks, share an internet connection, then use the wizard that opens to create a network disk, insert the network disk into the client computer and run it.

The two computers can be easily connected with a cross over cable and one NIC card on each machine. Make sure it is a cross over cable, normal cat 5 will require more NIC cards since you would have to have a connection for data traveling in each direction.
You can find Crossover cable at any store that carries computer stuff (best buy etc....just ask somebody where the cross over cable is.)

yes, chances are you could get cat-5 cables at best buy (they are also called network cables). But if you are just connecting from one computer to another (with no router) then you need to get a "cross-over" cable.

If you use a router... you would just need 2 standard network cables.

How can you tell a cross over cable from a standard cable you ask? it's very simple!

hold the connectors next to each other and look at the sequence of colors on the wires. If the sequence is the same on both, it's a standard network cable. if 2 wires are switched then it's a cross over.

Here's what my cross over cable's wires look like:
|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|
|w|o|w|b|w|g|w|B| - First connector
|w|g|w|b|w|o|w|B| - Second connector
(w = white)(o = orange)(b = blue)(g = green)(B = brown)
The orange and green wires are "crossed"
Please remember that most cable manufactures tend to use their own color scheme.

They are crossed so that the "output" of one machine gets to the "input" of the other and vice versa. If the wires weren't crossed "input" would connect to "input" and "output" would connect to "output", so no data transmission would occur.

I'm sorry for your bad experience with satellite... I hope direcWay isn't the same as direcTV. I know some people who have direcTV and they love it.

yes, chances are you could get cat-5 cables at best buy (they are also called network cables). But if you are just connecting from one computer to another (with no router) then you need to get a "cross-over" cable.

If you use a router... you would just need 2 standard network cables.

How can you tell a cross over cable from a standard cable you ask? it's very simple!

hold the connectors next to each other and look at the sequence of colors on the wires. If the sequence is the same on both, it's a standard network cable. if 2 wires are switched then it's a cross over.

Here's what my cross over cable's wires look like:
|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|
|w|o|w|b|w|g|w|B| - First connector
|w|g|w|b|w|o|w|B| - Second connector
(w = white)(o = orange)(b = blue)(g = green)(B = brown)
The orange and green wires are "crossed"
Please remember that most cable manufactures tend to use their own color scheme.

They are crossed so that the "output" of one machine gets to the "input" of the other and vice versa. If the wires weren't crossed "input" would connect to "input" and "output" would connect to "output", so no data transmission would occur.

I'm sorry for your bad experience with satellite... I hope direcWay isn't the same as direcTV. I know some people who have direcTV and they love it.