Turkish EU Bid

Lol, you guys sound just like US (Americans) when we defend our positions in the world stage. ;)

I lived in 3 different countries who all had major issues being accepted into the EU, Portugal was one - so I see both sides of the issue. Even the farmers and workers in each country demonstrating AGAINST entry. It does seem funny that Mr. Chirac critizes so heavily on one side and takes other stances else where. But hey that is the world. :)

The EU is becoming much like the United States, in perhaps a few decades similar policy will surface as it's influence in a United Body expands? Turkey is an ally to the United States, a member of NATO and just an all around decent country for the most part. I think the United States, as an ally, and member of the UN has the right to say "Hey, let them in" we all know you EU guys won't listen anyway but it's a friend doing his or her part in the scheme. What's he supposed to say, **** off Turkey? :)

Entry into the Union SHOULD BE heavily guarded, as fair as possible, and perhaps "exclusive" to the benefit of the members who forged the alliance. Having said that Turkey has been a very active partner in the defense of Europe over the years - decades in Fact. They will get theirs in time, I imagine in must be frustrating to the populace on both sides.

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"Including Turkey in the EU would prove that Europe is not the exclusive club of a single religion, and it would expose the 'clash of civilisations' as a passing myth of history."

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I reckon that this is the part of bushs speech that caused the most problems. He is more or less stating that the reason for Turkey not haveing a date for membership is based on its religion.

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Mr Chirac has in the past said he backs Turkish EU membership in principle if Ankara fulfils its conditions. Turkey is keen to start membership talks, and argues that it has already met most of the criteria.

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The biggest stumbling block for Turkey ,as has been said before, is on the humanitarianand judicial side of the conditions. Even thought France pays the largest share of the EU buget with Germany the economy of Turkey was never a problem.

I wonder how Bush would react to Chirac commenting on his newest plans for Cuba.

cuban policy

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I wonder how Bush would react to Chirac commenting on his newest plans for Cuba.

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Chirac has no business there because it has nothing to do with EU. Thats between the US and Cuba only. Meanwhile, the Turkey issue has to deal with the whole EU, and since the US is part of it....it becomes our business.

How is the Us part of the EU? You just justified Chiracs statement :D Maybe you should find out what the EU is.

sorry I was thinking of NATO. Either way....the US did not "tell" the UN to accept Turkey in....they simply gave their opinion...so chirac needs to chill the BLEEP out...I dont see the rest of the members saying "OH GEEZ US MIND YOUR OWN FREEGIN BUSINESS". The way I see it, Chirac has some other corrupted idea in mind, thats why it wants the US to back off.

We all know that the US wants to lower the tension it has risen in the middle east....



I know what the EU is....relax smartass.

I am relaxed, just edited my post before i got your answer but your statement on Cuba does basically go the same way as Chirac statement on Turkey. By the way here is the exact quote from Chirac.

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"If President Bush really said that the way I read it, well, not only did he go too far but he went into a domain which is not his own," Chirac told reporters at the summit.

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So where does he need to chill out. He even says he might be mistaken in his understanding of what Bush said.

edit Smartass?? :confused:

I can always say, "I might be wrong but you need to mind your own freegin business" in a politicaly correct way? Strange how only Chirac "might" have misread it....you know how much the two of them like each other ;).

Isnt that what it is all about. Being politicaly correct. As I said before I would suspect that Chiracs statement is more against the religious content of what Bush said than anything else and to use your words
quote Chirac has no business there because it has nothing to do with EU. Thats between the US and Cuba only. end quote

You are right though they do love each other dont they.

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France should be thrown out of the EU and left to rot alone. They don't want to participate in NATO then they can take a running jump. The cynicism in thier decision is incredible. They don't have to participate in NATO and therefore share the cost because they are surrounded by NATO countries that should automatically go to war against an attacker were any of them attacked. Thus, by proxy NATO is defending France by defending it's own member countries. It's that kind on BS that makes the French so bloody useless to the rest of the world.... And then they gob off as if they are someone important and to be respected..... They deserve no respect and should hush up a little while everyone around them protects them and bails them out of two foreign invasions in 20 years, they didn't even learn!!!!!!

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I dunno, the older I get and the more I learn and understand about this world the more worthless the French become...... Maybe I'm just becoming crabby....... :eek:

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Maybe I'm just becoming crabby.......

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Codger :D

MURACU, are you saying Chirac would side with Castro?