Spyder32, I don't think there would be a problem leaving IE on your computer. Too much of a hassle to remove it? You would not have to worry about it unless somebody owned your box and then you would have more problems than an unused browser.
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Spyder32, I don't think there would be a problem leaving IE on your computer. Too much of a hassle to remove it? You would not have to worry about it unless somebody owned your box and then you would have more problems than an unused browser.
Wow, I just downloaded FireFox (took 55 second's or so) and I'm pretty impressed so far. Installed a pretty cool looking theme :) and I'm liking this alot. It's like having mozilla (same company) and it's a great browser. Seem's like the support for it is pretty high and the overall customization of it is great.
devpon: So you suggest leaving IE on my computer? Heh, alright. Won't be used again though. :D
Oh hell, I am going to be getting a million calls from paniced customers on monday becasue of this asking if they should switch.
when will people learn. Switching is a temp. solution. Wehn any particular product gets popular it will get attacked. In the last week with the start of this panic we have already seen holes pop up in both mozilla and opera. switching is not the solution, it is only part of the solution. I use IE and I have not had a serious infection on my computer in atleast a year and a half. I download stuff daily, Im online more then I sleep (work, school, play) and I have no problems. Im not saying switching is a bad idea, its just not something to panic about if you doing other things to take precaussion. Get your AVs up to date and configured, run adaware and spybot ocassionally. DONT DOWNLOAD STUPID ****! this is not that hard.
Except for MS updates. Unless someone knows a way to do it with firefox?Quote:
devpon: So you suggest leaving IE on my computer? Heh, alright. Won't be used again though.
muert0 you don't need to use IE to schedule automatic downloading of updates. dont know if the system requires IE to be installed to do this as i never removed it to find out.
Good point I usually just go manually check the updates every other day. Don't really like scheduling my computer to do it's own stuff because I never know when people will come in my room and use my computer. Then scheduled stuff doesn't get done.
I would say, do switch to Firefox if you like. But as a win32 user, Don't remove IE (not that it is "officially" possible anyway).
Keep IE so that you can run Windows update; it gets tricky without it, relying on Activex. If you can't safely go to Windowsupdate, where can you go?
Just take off the obvious places, and disassociate it with html files and URLs. And set a blank home page so it doesn't drop you into the ad-laden popup city that is MSN.
Slarty
I stopped using IE a while back, when I downloaded Mozilla, that oddly just stopped opening so I downloaded Opera, I love Opera now :D switch tabs using 1 and 2 on the number pad (1 to switch to the tab to the left and 2 to switch to the tab to the right) and the mouse shortcut hold left and click right button: Foward, Hold right and press left: Back :D press backslash and type what you want to find on the page and etc.. it's a long list of shortcuts I got used to and doubt I'll be switching browsers anytime soon :)
I'm here :) But not sure what you expect me to say. There are far too many less known projects (Open source and closed source) that are both secure and insecure. Apache being secure and well known, Gnome being secure and not as well known. ISS being well known and insecure, and so forth and so forth.Quote:
Just as Apache is the most used web server and the most at risk? Where is pooh when you need him.
What proof besides browsing freshmeat and reading up on past OpenSource project history is needed to show that marketshare and "being well known" is not a huge factor in security?
It may just be me, but a well coded, secure program that is not well known is going to still be a well coded, secure program even if it gains popularity (ie: apache, FBSD ipstack)
I think IE is very horribly coded and thus the reason for it's exploits. Marketshare holds only a tiny factor, because that simply means more people there to exploit the already existant bugs.
Marketshare or popularity do not create bugs, bad coding creates bugs
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Someone asked how to get mozilla to run windows update. Here are a few suggestions:
1. Install the appropriate activeX for your specific firefox/mozilla browser: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm
2. Install a User Agent Switcher plugin so it thinks you are in IE:
http://update.mozilla.org/extensions...=Configuration
Yeah, good advice slarty. I set mine to http://127.0.0.1 so I know if I ever get any invisible or fake webserver's on my machine if I ever get tempted to click IE. And yeah, with all the ad's MSN has it's smart to remove that as the start page.Quote:
And set a blank home page so it doesn't drop you into the ad-laden popup city that is MSN.