need to overide network administrtor .....

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Originally posted here by slarty

Ultimately, network support / sysadmin is a cost centre on a company and should be answerable to the users - they are there to try and make your life easier not more difficult.

Slarty

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Haha! Thats pretty funny...

I have a new guy who thinks that we should do whatever he wants.

Like... disable the long distance codes on the phone because he doesn't want to dial an extra 4 digits... It supposedly "wastes his time" and I should disable it for him.

NOPE!

Like... get him the software that he wants and make everyone else switch to something he knows... just because he doesn't like the way it looks.

NOPE!

When the phone rings, he shouldn't have to ask the person for information... it should automatically bring up all the customer info... because him asking for info from a customer is wasting his time...

NOPE!

The list goes on and on...

We (the network nazis) are here to "Protect"... NOT serve. ;)

Lol, but still the IS or IT is a huge cost center that generates NO revenue, only sucks it all up. :)

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Lol, but still the IS or IT is a huge cost center that generates NO revenue, only sucks it all up

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ummmm only yesterday i repaired some work which had been done incorrectly by the site team leaders which made the company in the region of £23394.50

without me being there they wouldn't have even realised they had lost that revenue until they went to do the invoice at the end of the month by which time the amount of records which would ahve ben lost and unrecoverable would prolly be in the realms of 80%

so yeah ok we may not directly produce revenue for the company but we're def handy to have around ;)

v_Ln

If what your trying do access on the network is legit then go over the admins head. While network admins do hold a great amount of power, usually it's not the type that allows them decide if someone can use a printer if its actually part of their job to do so. The network admins job should not interfere with employee productivity unless there is some other reason, probly security related, as in someone broke something badly and lost the rights.

I would suggest not trying to undermine the admin, but to go around them.

Sounds like the guy that got promoted got there because of who he knew (or blew, hehe) and not necessarily because of his ability to be a good network admin.

Being a unix/network admin for the past 9 years, I know what it's like to support any number of customers, whether it's sales (the worst, IMHO), financial (they want their data!), programmers (HAHAHAHA), and the like. Sure, we, in the IT field, are an expense entirely to the company but that's only because of the way things are structured now. The bean counters find it ok to pay a top sales rep six figures, give him/her a fully-loaded office with windows and a secretary, and all sorts of other fringe benefits, but I'm a cost to the company when I want the company to pay for a better server because the one I use now to run 8 different web applications hand-programmed by me using free software (apache, php, postgresql) saving the company thousands is a cost? **** THAT! Let that server die just once, and because I don't have the privilege of a used 4mm DAT drive for backup, let it crash!

On the subject of, contact upper management, preferably his manager with his tactics. He sounds like the zealous "I just got power and can do all! AHAHAHAHAHA" and needs to be smacked down.

There's egos at work here. And empire building.

(Guesswork)

HE (admin) has been promoted to this position, over retriever, and, methinks that there is/was some bad blood between him and others in the company.

You need to tread carefully, or YOU will be leaving.
See your/his line manager, get around a table and talk this out, if they do nothing to stop the new way; then your only option is to walk away............

Well......

Rule#1...............................The Administrator is always right
Rule#2...............................If you do not understand, please refer back to rule #1

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OK, now the serious stuff..........................if this person's activities prevent you doing your work.....please report it to your line manager.

If I were your line manager I would ask two questions:

1. Is there a wannabe fuhrer in IT
2. Are my staff takling the p1$$

Dismissals would depend upon the findings of the court martial


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rule 1 the admin is always right?
rule 2 refer rule one?
rule 3 if it breaks fire the admin because he refuses to listen? :D

Mabey just bring the problems that have been caused by the changes to the attention to the appropriate parties would help. Sometimes it takes time for things for things to get running smoothly with a change of administrators.

Hi Spamdies, and have a good week-end (that is a direct order) :D

What I was saying is that either the Admin is OK or he/she is not...........My rules are based
on the availability/service contract.................so you have to give admins a break?

I assume that all Admins are OK up until the Christmas party.............then I cannot sit on two seats at the same time?

Anyways.............I am a very lucky person in that I can hunt with the hounds and run with the fox at the same time :)

And I have the physical keys and codes, and my access card backs that up..........but only if, and I do mean ONLY if, I am asked to help Admin. will I use an Admin pass.

just my thoughts

id like to know what happened to the last admin. i mean was their to many virus/trojan incidents and they fired him or did he find a better job?

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imagine you trying to download and you can't save on your harddisk for later recovery without calling him, or your wanting to run a program , and you see a link that says vb... has been disabled,

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users should not be allowed to download anything...thats a fact, sorry, and unless your a programmer or a database administrator or the like, vb is just a toy that you cant play with. this dosnt sound like an outragous policy to me sounds more like hes doing the job the last guy didn't/wouldn't/couldn't do.

i dont blame you for being angry. i mean nobody likes change but thats the way its going to be no matter where you go. get over it or start your own biz. you try to get over on him and im pretty sure he'll see your fired.