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Yes mate, that is exactly the problem...................our friend has made 4 posts..............you have made lots, and I have made a few more :DQuote:
its a problem of audience, not the content
We have to accept that we might have some irresponsible people around here............hey we have hundreds of anonymous guests, just lurking (are you there Roger? :cool: )
So my argument is that although we are a security site, we have to be just a little cautious?
Cheers
I have to agree with the majority: I'd much rather post defense, defensive strategies/countermeasures, and downloads that would help secure and help a system rather than help the worldwide skiddie's cause and wreak havoc.
Congratulations Jeremy, you have succeeded in avoiding the "evil glare" of some of the most suspicious old bastiges on AO...... you da man.....
Now do me a favor..... Quit hawking your site!!!!!! ;)
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Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
Congratulations Jeremy, you have succeeded in avoiding the "evil glare" of some of the most suspicious old bastiges on AO...... you da man.....
Now do me a favor..... Quit hawking your site!!!!!! ;)
Who you calling OLD! ;)
Nihil for a start...... :D
Well in the US unless Attorney Gen John Ashcroft has made freedom of speech
against the law or to design something that may do harm
to a computer in a proof of concept... I would personally
say it is legal.... It is like drawing a gun or making a gun that
works is ok unless you kill someone with it... then it is not ok.
Common sense or personal ethics has to come into play on that.
Remember that since 9/11 some laws in the US that have been
put in place may not make muster as far as the "US Constitution"
but I would not want to be made the example or be the one who
is made the scape goat.
TigerShark,
Done! ;)
It wasnt a *total* promo gig though... i mean.. we got a good conversation going here... I suppose I also am sort of interested in if the site is going to be attacked leagally ;)... and most of all - I want to hear from the credible members of this site to hear what they would think of seeing pre-compiled exploits on a site... the post wasn't *that bad* now was it?
cheers,
jeremy
Tiger: /me is wondering if you are referring to me and nihil ;)
Yeah that sure does get annoying sometimes.Quote:
Quit hawking your site!!!!!!
<LOL>
Dyn:
It was the best social engineering of AO I have seen since I have been here.... It certainly gave me a giggle.... Everyone responding without thought to who they were responding to and the site that was linked to.... I was really surprised how far you got it to go, kudos to you.... Course, the rest of them should be ashamed.... Most others would have been chewed up and spat out by post two..... But they just clicked and went with no regard from what I can see..... ;) Nice work.
As to the subject.... Yeah, precompiled code available for download to any Tom, Dick or Harry is an issue with me. If I'm a secadmin who wants to use exploits against my own network then, being a secadmin, I should be able to work out how to compile them for myself, or I shouldn't be a secadmin really, should I?
OTOH, if I'm an unskilled, untalented little *cough* tosser that wants to wreak havoc on some poor unsuspecting admin's, (note: not secadmin), without the common sense and basic ability to be able to spend the time and effort to learn how to adjust and compile an exploit why would you want to further my criminal career by providing a "plug and pray" solution to my lazyness?
In short.... if you want your site to become a place where "professionals" hang out then providing pre-complied binaries doesn't seem to fit the target audience, if you know what I mean....
Good luck
Sometimes exploit code will have small mistakes in it, put in by the author on purpose. They're things that someone with coding experience can fix, but the compile errors will scare away any script kiddie who doesn't know ****.
This will at least keep out most of the kids. The dangerous ones are the ones who know their stuff..
Just thought I'd add this to the conversation. Carry on :)